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So what happened to the current Sov war?

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Yarosara Ruil
#21 - 2016-05-06 09:35:37 UTC
The MBC's Grr Goons was so strong that now we have two Goon groups in EVE! Aren't schisms fun?~

And I for one welcome our new Pandemic Legion (Horde?) overlords.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2016-05-06 11:11:14 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Amarrchecko wrote:
Sustrai Aditua wrote:
All that being as it may, what CFC lost it can quickly regain. Money talks, and they have essentially an endless supply of that.


How exactly is a bunch of isk going to help the Imperium regain (let alone "quickly regain" and/or maintain) multiple regions of fozziesov, or recover the membership they lost?


It isnt.

The loss of their empire isnt the biggest blow, the big blow is the loss of their back room talent. The GIA is gone, the replacement "black hand" is nowhere near as effective. They have lost their top tier FC's and whats worse, a good many of them are now working against them. They have lost their talented diplomats and wordsmiths, which is why you see their leadership managing to put their foot in their mouths so much of late and the total lack of quality propaganda from their side. They have managed to alienate almost everyone that built the empire.

The imperium won't recover from this, the people it needs to do that have all been pushed out.
Memphis Baas
#23 - 2016-05-06 13:10:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
GIA, the FC's, and all the "talent" are still in the game, playing.

No dictator / leader has EVER stepped down of their own free will, "for the good of the people", in the history of humanity; it's just not built into our psychological profile to do so. With the war aimed at Mittani et al, I think what we've seen is everyone throwing him out, so to speak, the only way that it could be done (by leaving his organization).

The "talent" will be fine; the game is interesting right now, and there are plenty of employment options between the various alliances and Darius Johnson coming back from being a CCP dev to provide another option.

PL et al aren't "the good guys"; the goons could reform, and if they play it right, manage to lay the blame for all the "evil" behavior on Mittani, while painting themselves as the good guys struggling to rescue their brothers who are stuck in Deklein, fighting valiantly against bigger, bloodthirsty, evil entities such as PL.

All they need to do is be very friendly to new players via recruiting into (new?)KarmaFleet etc. CCP wants to see a continuous war, and especially wants to see newbies introduced to it as soon as they create their first character, so KarmaFleet vs. PandemicHorde vs. BNI vs. other similar entities could be a thing. A null alliance would just need to fund a newbie group, and fund constant wars for them, to be acceptable to CCP even if they don't otherwise participate too often in major wars involving supers.

It's a way to recruit, too, in addition to creating content for the subcap game and getting newbies interested in PVP. And maybe the continuous destruction of countless subcap ships will be sufficient to keep the economy vibrant without the need to destroy supers too often. Not that that isn't fun.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#24 - 2016-05-06 13:21:49 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
GIA, the FC's, and all the "talent" are still in the game, playing.


Not in the imperium.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#25 - 2016-05-06 13:30:43 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Hello guys,

I'm wondering what's currently happening with everyone killing goons? A few weeks ago there was alot of chest beating on the forums about how the goons will finally die and EVE will all be rainbows and smileys. What's currently happening to the war since I noticed that everyone just kinda stopped posting about how goons are dying and stuff.


Balon Greyjoy voice

What is docked may never die.

/Balon Greyjoy voice
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#26 - 2016-05-06 13:36:31 UTC
Yarosara Ruil wrote:
The MBC's Grr Goons was so strong that now we have two Goon groups in EVE! Aren't schisms fun?~



Yes they actually are. The Goons schism reminds me of one from my other favorite Sci-fi IP, Battletech. I know there are other BT fans here that will understand what I'm about to say. Mittens Goons are old Comstar, the new goons are the Word of Blake lol.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#27 - 2016-05-06 15:40:15 UTC
"Not winning fast enough"
Kaska Iskalar
Doomheim
#28 - 2016-05-06 15:48:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaska Iskalar
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
As a former member, I can say the CFC was all kinds of good fun while The Imperium was a bunch of nerds with broomsticks shoved firmly up their proverbial. The shift from CFC to The Imperium will go down in EVE History as The Mittani's greatest ever mistake.

Oh shut up. CFC has been new BoB for years. Nothing changed but the name.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#29 - 2016-05-06 16:16:22 UTC
Kaska Iskalar wrote:
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
As a former member, I can say the CFC was all kinds of good fun while The Imperium was a bunch of nerds with broomsticks shoved firmly up their proverbial. The shift from CFC to The Imperium will go down in EVE History as The Mittani's greatest ever mistake.

Oh shut up. CFC has been new BoB for years. Nothing changed but the name.


Nah he's right.

CFC we all knew and loved ended when they "rebranded" to the Imperium.
Kaska Iskalar
Doomheim
#30 - 2016-05-06 17:46:02 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Kaska Iskalar wrote:
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
As a former member, I can say the CFC was all kinds of good fun while The Imperium was a bunch of nerds with broomsticks shoved firmly up their proverbial. The shift from CFC to The Imperium will go down in EVE History as The Mittani's greatest ever mistake.

Oh shut up. CFC has been new BoB for years. Nothing changed but the name.


Nah he's right.

CFC we all knew and loved ended when they "rebranded" to the Imperium.

Speak for yourself. I haven't liked them since they became BoB.
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
#31 - 2016-05-06 19:10:50 UTC
Momentum sorta died down when they crushed and slaughtered everything in 2 months time or so. In that time The Imperium shed most of its talent, lost its land, lost its carebears, and is now left with dillusional leadership. Right now it looks like clean up time. MBC fully expected to fight each other eventually. Maybe now even more fun can be brought in by others.
Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2016-05-06 20:17:15 UTC
The MBC right now.

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#33 - 2016-05-06 21:48:37 UTC
The GSF right now.

Je suis Paris // Köln // Brüssel // Orlando // Nice // Würzburg, München, Ansbach // Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray

Je suis Berlin // Fort Lauderdale // London // St. Petersburg // Stockholm

Je suis [?]

Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2016-05-06 22:11:35 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:
So DEAD and gone also not holding any territory Mission Accomplished, or If I upvote on reddit and like the posts on GD that call Goons dead, hard enough the mean ebil Goonies will go away Mission Accomplished? Because that looks like the latter than the former. So Mission Accomplished. Big smile











Can you share with the rest of us, cause you be tripping hard.

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#35 - 2016-05-06 22:58:47 UTC
The goons can say what they like, but every guristas maze escalation I do in space the spent years building up is all the victory I need lol.
John E Normus
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#36 - 2016-05-06 23:43:33 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
The goons can say what they like, but every guristas maze escalation I do in space the spent years building up is all the victory I need lol.


and so the wheel turns...

Between Ignorance and Wisdom

Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2016-05-07 00:04:56 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Yarosara Ruil wrote:
The MBC's Grr Goons was so strong that now we have two Goon groups in EVE! Aren't schisms fun?~



Yes they actually are. The Goons schism reminds me of one from my other favorite Sci-fi IP, Battletech. I know there are other BT fans here that will understand what I'm about to say. Mittens Goons are old Comstar, the new goons are the Word of Blake lol.


Does that mean the MBC are clanners? That would explain why they like to shoot each other.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2016-05-07 00:57:20 UTC
John E Normus wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
The goons can say what they like, but every guristas maze escalation I do in space the spent years building up is all the victory I need lol.


and so the wheel turns...

So who gets to be called BoB this time?

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 

Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#39 - 2016-05-07 01:18:43 UTC
Well "The Imperium" is gone, SMA is dying quietly in Cloud Ring, "Refubee Coalition" of Fcon and a few others have moved to tenerferis to try and get out of their situation.


GSF is trying to widot the rest of their "allies", who are all is still camped in Saranen, bleeding membership and directors. Their entire super fleet is logged off inside of enemy POSes, so PL are probably going to live up there for awhile picking those off. Everybody else is pretty much packing it up and going home. Except TEST and Darkness who are apparently living up there now.


War is over.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

Kieron VonDeux
#40 - 2016-05-07 01:33:30 UTC
Falin Whalen wrote:
John E Normus wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
The goons can say what they like, but every guristas maze escalation I do in space the spent years building up is all the victory I need lol.


and so the wheel turns...

So who gets to be called BoB this time?


I don't think the ass-hat-ness has worn off from the goons yet, so they will probably be the default tards of Eve until their Organization decides to move on from Eve Online.