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Broadsword FITS

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Elinara Yamamoto
Latex Entosis
#1 - 2016-05-03 11:50:06 UTC
Hi all,

I am going to buy a few of these, at least 3.

I need 3 fits:

Small Gang
Gatecamp
Solo

If one fit does cover 2/3 of my activities, then even better (doubt it though) I think it will need a cyno in all of the fits, I could always call on my carrier alt I guess. Bubble is probably needed for all of them too? I just finished training all the skills to fly it well, but have not flown it at all. I have PvP experience in other ships like the T1 version on this but I know this is very different, for instance i heard you can do funny things with the mass change when bubble is active, please teach me forum people :)

Also this is in Nullsec, no lowsec for me kkthxbye.

Can fit anything T2. bling I think should not provide significant advantages, but prove me wrong if you must.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#2 - 2016-05-03 17:24:02 UTC
Why don't you try and throw something together that meets your own requirements first, and we'll gladly have a look at it?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Lucy Callagan
Goryn Clade
#3 - 2016-05-03 19:05:17 UTC
[Broadsword]
Counterbalanced Compact Gyrostabilizer
Gyrostabilizer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Power Diagnostic System II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I,Navy Cap Booster 800

720mm Howitzer Artillery II,Republic Fleet Fusion M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II,Republic Fleet Fusion M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II,Republic Fleet Fusion M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II,Republic Fleet Fusion M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II,Republic Fleet Fusion M
Warp Disruption Field Generator II,Focused Warp Disruption Script

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Elinara Yamamoto
Latex Entosis
#4 - 2016-05-04 07:26:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Elinara Yamamoto
Thanks for the replies so far, I am really bad at EFT and similar programs, I do not even know if this fits but let me try Bumble ^^

Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Co-Processor II

50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Cynosural Field Generator I
Warp Disruption Field Generator II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II


Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Republic Fleet Fusion M
Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot M
Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium M
Focused Warp Disruption Script

Does this fit, can I do anything I want to do with this? And what about Lucy's fit if I just change one gun for a Cyno?
Elinara Yamamoto
Latex Entosis
#5 - 2016-05-05 09:09:05 UTC
No more answers :(

Anyway, for gatecamping should I use AC or Arty? the latter I think. Also for solo (and potentially hotdropping someone lighting a Cyno) I guess what kind of gun does not matter too much?
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#6 - 2016-05-06 20:53:51 UTC
My only suggestion thus far Elinara is that you get rid of the cyno - get a dedicated alt//friend to light it...focus! :)

Arties are good to alpha blap smaller things at gates

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

ARMED1
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#7 - 2016-05-07 01:47:38 UTC  |  Edited by: ARMED1
Elinara Yamamoto wrote:
Hi all,

I am going to buy a few of these, at least 3.

I need 3 fits:

Small Gang
Gatecamp
Solo

If one fit does cover 2/3 of my activities, then even better (doubt it though) I think it will need a cyno in all of the fits, I could always call on my carrier alt I guess. Bubble is probably needed for all of them too? I just finished training all the skills to fly it well, but have not flown it at all. I have PvP experience in other ships like the T1 version on this but I know this is very different, for instance i heard you can do funny things with the mass change when bubble is active, please teach me forum people :)

Also this is in Nullsec, no lowsec for me kkthxbye.

Can fit anything T2. bling I think should not provide significant advantages, but prove me wrong if you must.



All this is bad.

Let me just start with - you are flying a Bradsword (T2 hull) might you not want to properly support it with T2 mods. Another way of saying it would be that you need to spend time building the right foundation so that you can fit ships properly. No doubt if you cant fit T2 mods you are probably also lacking well developed skill in other places like ship fitting/grid/engineering/damage etc.

Secondly, I wont even get into the reasons or stats behind why T2 guns are better in every way than T1. Obviously you arent paying attention to the fundamentals. So, just take my word for it.

Third, it sounds like you just want a mostly one size fits all ship to go donk around in. Why would you want to fly a Broadsword for that? You are paying for a hull that is capable of doing cool things and then you are gimping it with stupid fits or possibly using it a way where another hull would be much better at the same thing. You should save yourself some isk and fly Ruptures if you are just donking around and gate camping etc. And yeah like someone else said - when it comes to fits - focus the fit.

Fourth - a solo Broadsword in null or... Really anywhere... No, just no.

But wait?!? I have your solution!!! Just fit a dual tanked, dual prop, active, passive, arty, autocannon, cyno, cloaky, focused point Braodsword. The you have a ship for any situation you may encounter. Oh and dont forget to fit a web :P

LOL @ NULLBEARZ
Elinara Yamamoto
Latex Entosis
#8 - 2016-05-07 06:19:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Elinara Yamamoto
ARMED1 please reread, I said I CAN not can't fit all the T2 and I only want to bling it if there is a serious reason for it.

My core skills and shield tanking skills are all more than appropriate for this. Only thing I am missing is Heavy Interdiction Cruisers V at the moment, I can also fit all the T2 guns...

I want to focus the fit, that is why I actually asked for 3 different fits for 3 different purposes.

But if you want to contribute I d like it if you could show me some of your fits to do cool things with :)

/edit I think I just made another decision which makes life easier, I will take the script with me but I think I will not use infinipoint much, just bubble.

/edit2 Also I don't need to save myself some ISK because I'd much rather have fun exploding 20 or more Broadsword and coming out at the other end with having learned quite a lot about this beautiful ship :) (I have flown a lot of Ruptures and other ships in PvP)
Lucy Callagan
Goryn Clade
#9 - 2016-05-07 09:48:16 UTC
Elinara Yamamoto wrote:
Thanks for the replies so far, I am really bad at EFT and similar programs, I do not even know if this fits but let me try Bumble ^^

Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Co-Processor II

50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Cynosural Field Generator I
Warp Disruption Field Generator II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II


Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Republic Fleet Fusion M
Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot M
Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium M
Focused Warp Disruption Script

Does this fit, can I do anything I want to do with this? And what about Lucy's fit if I just change one gun for a Cyno?


might be viable but replace an invul for a small cap booster, the cap is a real struggle
Johng Kahn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-05-07 14:13:32 UTC
Not sure this will fit any of your purposes but I did just make a broadsword fit thats kind of a twist on my old Mobster Broadsword.

This fit is put together with the idea of being able to use in wormhole and null as a ship i can drop on any group that has neut pressure as broadsword and most hics suffer greatly from neuting ships.

Also it has room to be able to swap it around a bit but still maintain great tank and survivability for short engagements.

it's ability to solo is pretty good and mostly intended to use the scripted point. But for solo work you will need to add a fed navy web. Without the cap injector your still cap stable just not hyper cap stable.

Also it is very cheap. 350 mill fit and hull. Sustained tank / burst tank is 650/1300 dps with moderate skills. Offensive dps is 440/500 with moderate skills.

[Broadsword, Gangsta]
Damage Control II
Co-Processor II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Pith C-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150

Pitfall Compact Warp Disruption Field Generator, Focused Warp Disruption Script
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Projectile Metastasis Adjuster II

This is my take on a fun broadsword to derp in. I tested it against a few ships and it seems to hold up pretty good in a fight and dmg application is good but like i said. you will need to readjust for a web if you dont have buddies with you.
Johng Kahn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-05-07 14:19:20 UTC
Oh... btw i did not set the slot layout for overheating when i did this in eft so you would need to readjust the high and mid slot layout a bit.
Johng Kahn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-05-07 20:20:53 UTC
Lol new update. While some of my corp members derped and lost some ships I just baited with that build I posted and hooked a large mouth Rattlesnake ! .. Then it spawned 3 stratios. This was in our home hole.

They tried to kill the broadsword twice. gave it all the neuts they had. No Bueno. Though they were able to drive me off grid the broadsword held up beautify and was able to escape after downing a rabid Gecko.

When a drone costs as much as a cruiser I should get a kill mail for it !!!!

I held the grid longer then the phoon that was there with me.

I would say that it still may need some tweeks but I am very happy with that build so far.
Elinara Yamamoto
Latex Entosis
#13 - 2016-05-08 02:01:32 UTC
Thanks everyone that posted lately especially Johng Kahn. I will try this fit out on my 2nd or 3rd Broadsword that I ll fit up and also tinker with my first initial fit!

Hold on I just looked at your dual ASB fit properly and it looks a beauty. :) Maybe I will change my fit to that right meow :)
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#14 - 2016-05-08 06:25:05 UTC
I flew this fit for a while, before I decided the Onyx was better is so many ways.

[Broadsword, (Q) RF Heavy Tackler 2.0]
Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Stasis Webifier II

Warp Disruption Field Generator II, Focused Warp Disruption Script
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Barrage M x1485
Republic Fleet EMP M x2230
Nanite Repair Paste x212
Navy Cap Booster 400 x33

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.