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Why does the enyo only get one frigate bonus and all the rest have 2? Where did your consistency go?

Wasnt denying that, just saying rockets are a great weapon for killing Drones (derp) and certainly nothing like how they were described. Tbh shooting the drones on a blaster ranged ishkur flown by an experienced drone boat pilot is always fairly pointless.....problem is rarely are Ishkurs piloted by experienced pilots.

I'd hit them with 2 volleys, they'd then be in low armour, by that point they'd get recalled.

The Enyo is a really really capable ship.
You can fit a nice tank and match the dps of the rest of the ships, or if you feel like the piloting champion of the world, you can fit for damage and have double the damage output of the rest.
The Enyo is just fine compared to the rest

i think you confused that "2" for a "7". If you can get anywhere near 3.1k m/s now without a small 25% boost then i'd like to see the fit. Otherwise with the current bonus you're already gonna get jags going 3.1k m/s with smaller sigs with a MWD. I still dont like the bonus, its more for inty's then AFs. I know it's been said that AFs already go MWD cruiser speeds atm with an AB, but isnt the point of tackling is to go faster then your target to catch them? A small boost to the current fits of AFs is better than giving them the role of another ship (effectively replacing the inty). The point of AF, i thought, was heavy tackle. What this does is make them fast-heavy tackle and really after this change we would need to see some changes to inty's, maybe give them the AB boost if AFs get the MWD.

Proxyyy, please shut it.
You haven't posted anything constructive since you started, other than extreme niche EFT setups trying to provoke people into thinking the ships are overpowered. Every time you've been asked to prove your worth you've simply backed into your corner and then come back with some irrelevant idea or *awesome fit*. Just. Stop.

As for the AB nonsense again, this has been said a thousand times:
The middle ground would be somewhere around 1400m/s (ship depending), which is a 50% speed bonus:
- barely faster than a cruiser (1600mm thorax is 1200m/s, 1800 overloaded)
- still insanely overpowered if said ships actually get the tackle or combat missile boats

And for Proxyyy, since you seem to be a special one, let me make it very clear to you:
This has been beaten to death. In order for an AB arrangement to be viable it needs to be faster that 50%.
And when when you reach a bonus that's actually fast enough to be useful, you have now breached into overpowered territory. It's not rocket science, you're just too thick to understand it.

And as for the rest who still can't comprehend, go on the test server and try it out.
I've seen very few of you *actually* trying these things out, and those of you that are are either seeing the light or still trying to play "low-sec hero" afterburning around the battlefields and complaining that the ships suck.

As for the babysitting remark, please. If it weren't for people like me you'd have been eating paste your whole life.
It's like watching kids & Santa Claus. It's cute for a while, then you just need to tell them he doesn't exist. Grow up.

I would like to see all frigates playing a larger role in PvP and approve of any changes that have a chance of achieving this. Starting with AFs. Your proposed 50% capacitor bonus doesn't achieve anything in this regard, it only makes them better (lowsec) soloers but doesn't bring them out of the gutter.

Would make them way too hard to kill once you factor in the mandatory Loki .. that sig bonus worked for interceptors since you can often kill them just by looking at them, but on AFs that can field cruiser size tanks *shudder* .. Wolf would be a 200dps/10k EHP light drone
Also shares the problem that any uniform combat related bonus has, it mainly benefits the few (ie. strong become stronger).

The only such bonus I can think of that would benefit all in equal measure is a heat resistance or efficiency bonus, but I think CCP said some time ago that it represents an advanced style of play so won't be used on "normal" ships or some nonsense like that.

The MWD bonus has such a limited use that any benefit already strong hulls may gain from it will be negligible, but that is about the only good thing there is to say about it.
Much better all-round if 1mn MWD's had their sig bloom halved instead as all frigates/dessies labour under the very problems that Prom seeks to solve for AFs .. bonus is that tackle in the form of interceptors would become phenomenal even in blobby weather.

Wonder how many of the Wolf/Jaguar/Ishkur BPO's are in Prom&Co's hands, bet it is most of them considering the arbitrary dismissals of any criticism.

Funnily enough, the jag is easily the weakest of the SiSi AFs and the Wolf/Ishkur are decidedly middling.

A 25% AB bonus would be fairly harmless, but still useful.
a Hawk for instance would be gaining around 250m/s, and a jaguar would be gaining 366m/s. They would still be slow in comparison to say the dramiel which AB burns at well over 2km/s.
If Assault frigates had even a little AB Bonus, to say put them in the territory of 1500m/s - 2000m/s, I would actually be much more inclined to use dual prop setups like dramiels. But as most of them will barely hit 1100m/s with a non-faction Afterburner, the web is usually needed to dictate effectively.
the MWD sig reduction is useful for a number of setups, but I still think Assault frigates work better when their tank is assisted by an Afterburner Speed tank. 75% is too much, 50% too much still, but 25%-30% doesn't seem unthinkable.