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What A Great Design!

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Kitsune Rei
Tastes Like Purple
#61 - 2016-05-01 11:16:21 UTC
Geronimo McVain wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Skiff can be pretty nasty.

If you make mining ships combat capable, then they become combat ships. We already have plenty of those!

At Fanfest CCP said they would give a new gimmick to the Rorqual, a sort of invulnerability field to keep miners alive (but can't move) until help arrives. Good idea to promote PVE-PVP interaction other than pure ganks, imo.
A mining ship shouldn't be able to stand up to battelship in the in the same weight class but if it just has 75% of a battleship it would be a bad combat ship but a nightmare to anyone who wants a fast gank.
The other thing is: If you beef up freighters/miners you can slow down Concord since it would take longer for attackers which would enable more player actions cause at there isn't much anti-ganking because it's over so quick either way. I think Concord/game mechanic is always the worst option if players can do the job.



Then why not give battleships 75% of the mining vessels efficiency?
Geronimo McVain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2016-05-01 11:30:27 UTC
Why not? If you want to mine in an Machariel, do it.
Kitsune Rei
Tastes Like Purple
#63 - 2016-05-01 11:35:48 UTC
Geronimo McVain wrote:
Why not? If you want to mine in an Machariel, do it.


The Rokh has a better tank and can fit 8 mining lasers vs. 7. Big smile
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#64 - 2016-05-01 12:02:19 UTC
Hello OP

I reviewed the kill and must say I was shocked to find you did not even own a mining permit. As you know all Highsec is New Order territory and therefor you agreed to follow the Code when you started mining there. Why would you steal our ore without a permit? Who is there real criminal in this story?
Kitsune Rei
Tastes Like Purple
#65 - 2016-05-01 12:15:27 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Hello OP

I reviewed the kill and must say I was shocked to find you did not even own a mining permit. As you know all Highsec is New Order territory and therefor you agreed to follow the Code when you started mining there. Why would you steal our ore without a permit? Who is there real criminal in this story?


I'll bet he didn't "gf" in local either. Big smile
cBOLTSON
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#66 - 2016-05-01 12:25:09 UTC  |  Edited by: cBOLTSON
The fallacy is that High Sec is safe. I seriously believe that with a little training and knowledge, joining a nullsec corp or alliance and mining in nullsec is actually safer. (Apart from those new rats i hear about maybe)

Oh and I will say I have done bits of mining on alts when I have been really bored. I actually "downgraded" from a hulk to a skiff because that thing is a little brick. I am no fan of what CODE does, however like it or not it is a part of the game. You are always free to chose your strategy in EVE online.

Mine more and be a gank target or mine a bit less with a lot more "safety".

The good old days of Unreal Tournament, fragging and sniping on Facing Worlds, listening to Foregone Destruction.......

Rumbless
#67 - 2016-05-01 12:47:57 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Hello OP

I reviewed the kill and must say I was shocked to find you did not even own a mining permit. As you know all Highsec is New Order territory and therefor you agreed to follow the Code when you started mining there. Why would you steal our ore without a permit? Who is there real criminal in this story?

I was shocked that none of the gankers had a ganking permit Shocked
Hawke Frost
#68 - 2016-05-01 12:53:41 UTC
Rumbless wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Hello OP

I reviewed the kill and must say I was shocked to find you did not even own a mining permit. As you know all Highsec is New Order territory and therefor you agreed to follow the Code when you started mining there. Why would you steal our ore without a permit? Who is there real criminal in this story?

I was shocked that none of the gankers had a ganking permit Shocked


tenbucks
Kitsune Rei
Tastes Like Purple
#69 - 2016-05-01 13:28:47 UTC
Rumbless wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Hello OP

I reviewed the kill and must say I was shocked to find you did not even own a mining permit. As you know all Highsec is New Order territory and therefor you agreed to follow the Code when you started mining there. Why would you steal our ore without a permit? Who is there real criminal in this story?

I was shocked that none of the gankers had a ganking permit Shocked



You could always enforce compliance by shooting at them.
W33b3l
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2016-05-01 14:36:33 UTC  |  Edited by: W33b3l
You can set up a Skiff to mine as well as a hulk or close and the amount of dessys required to pop one isn't worth what might drop out of the hold. So you should be able to mine all day in one and not be bothered at all. Unless you pissed somone off and it's some kind of self satisfiying revenge gank someone is pulling in you, in wich case welcome to EVE.
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#71 - 2016-05-01 16:35:30 UTC
Seriously the best advice is to join a null group, plenty of them have ore buyback programs and you'll get Jita buy prices without all the dumb effort it takes to get it there. On top of that you'll have like 10 jumps warning if a neutral appears so you can be aligned away no problem.

@lunettelulu7

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#72 - 2016-05-01 18:51:18 UTC
Rumbless wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Hello OP

I reviewed the kill and must say I was shocked to find you did not even own a mining permit. As you know all Highsec is New Order territory and therefor you agreed to follow the Code when you started mining there. Why would you steal our ore without a permit? Who is there real criminal in this story?

I was shocked that none of the gankers had a ganking permit Shocked

Sounds like extortion to me