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Lance Doomsday Lives Up to the Name

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Pryce Caesar
Cloak and Daggers
The Initiative.
#1 - 2016-05-01 07:13:17 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Max Trix
Northern Coalition Minmatar Lance vs Imperium Cerberus Fleet.

*snip* No Killboards *snip* ISD Max trix


The fleet was nailed when they were all jumping onto the system Gate. The Ragnarok was parked around 100 km out from the Gate. Either the pilot predict when the fleet would arrive, or he started prepping the Doomsday the moment the first ship arrived. Once it fired, an entire fleet of Cerberus ships and their support were annihilated in 15 seconds (pods too).

I bet many veteran players have not seen this kind of carnage from a Doomsday since the days when Doomsdays were fleet-wiping smartbombs.
Jovian Angel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-05-01 07:41:35 UTC
That's pretty damm cool
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#3 - 2016-05-01 08:08:56 UTC
Looks like supercaps are back with a vengeance... Cool
Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#4 - 2016-05-01 08:45:53 UTC
Note that the Lance is supposed to take signature radius into account. Against a cruiser the damage should be somewhere around 2000 DPS before resists. This is currently broken.

The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity.

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-05-01 08:49:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Note that the Lance is supposed to take signature radius into account. Against a cruiser the damage should be somewhere around 2000 DPS before resists. This is currently broken.

Totally agree.

Fighters from Carriers are killing pods when they land on station, before they can dock even. Totally crazy the current situation.

On this Citadel side of things, this expansion seems ok. On the Capitals side of things, it's typical CCP incompetent implementation. Larrikin should go chat to Nullabor about how to do things properly.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-05-01 09:03:16 UTC
Can somebody remind me why old DDs working through cyno were 'fixed'? Cool

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Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#7 - 2016-05-01 09:14:42 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Note that the Lance is supposed to take signature radius into account. Against a cruiser the damage should be somewhere around 2000 DPS before resists. This is currently broken.

Totally agree.

Fighters from Carriers are killing pods when they land on station, before they can dock even. Totally crazy the current situation.

On this Citadel side of things, this expansion seems ok. On the Capitals side of things, it's typical CCP incompetent implementation. Larrikin should go chat to Nullabor about how to do things properly.


No I mean actually. That wasn't an opinion or suggestion.

The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity.

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-05-01 09:26:33 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
No I mean actually. That wasn't an opinion or suggestion.

Yes, I got that. Just added in to it too.

It's not meant to be the way it is, but still contnibutes to the incompetent way the Capital changes have been implemented, in addition to some of the ways they were conceived.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#9 - 2016-05-01 09:38:08 UTC
So biggest goon operation we are about to see since the start of the war will be....

them brigading in the forums on alts claiming the new DD is OP and should be nerfed.

Because meta.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Wesley Otsdarva
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2016-05-01 09:52:02 UTC
In my opinion, working as intended. Finally capitals can do some crazy stuff instead of merely fight other capitals. Probably took quite a bit of setup for that kill. If they would of bounced from a planet instead of a straight warp. They would of completely avoided it. Loving it.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#11 - 2016-05-01 10:01:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Wesley Otsdarva wrote:
In my opinion, working as intended. Finally capitals can do some crazy stuff instead of merely fight other capitals. Probably took quite a bit of setup for that kill. If they would of bounced from a planet instead of a straight warp. They would of completely avoided it. Loving it.

Reading through the /r/eve thread, I'm not sure if working as intended, or something wrong with the math in implementation.

One thing's for certain, warping a fleet to 0 on gate when there's a neutral in system is a risk again.

Quoting from the top comment on the reddit thread:

cap_qu wrote:
don't cry nerf just yet, this is actually very bugged atm

a target is supposed to take (damage)*(signature/5000)*(1-resists) per tick

atm it's just doing (damage)*(1-resists)

it is supposed to work like a bomb does with regard to targets signature (with 5000 instead of 400) so obviously this would not be possible if working as intended - the cerbs would take roughly 1% of the damage they do in the video

edit: http://comfy.moe/fnawir.png this is the attribute i think the damage should scale off of - it looks like the wrong one was copied from bombs and whats strange to me is this attribute has actually changed since the test server


But then there are some other comments suggesting maybe not a problem.
cBOLTSON
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-05-01 12:35:44 UTC
I remember my first days in null as a total noob fighting against the likes of PL, Goons and RA down in the south.

I distinctly remember "DD tanking and double DD tanking" was a thing on battleships. Is that possible now? Will the days of DD tanking make a return? Twisted

The good old days of Unreal Tournament, fragging and sniping on Facing Worlds, listening to Foregone Destruction.......

Galaxxis
Unicorn Rampage
#13 - 2016-05-01 16:37:53 UTC
Splat! I wish I had a titan now.
Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2016-05-01 19:48:37 UTC
gl 'small entities' at conquering sov :D
(looks like last 2 years CCP attempts went kaboom)

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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2016-05-01 20:15:23 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
So biggest goon operation we are about to see since the start of the war will be....

them brigading in the forums on alts claiming the new DD is OP and should be nerfed.

Because meta.


No, the new incarnation of anti-subcap caps doesn't give you nigh-invincible blap titans or wrecking balls.

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d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2016-05-01 20:37:32 UTC
He killed 16 billion isk of stuff putting in 100+ billion isk of asset.

Id say its working as intended...

Been around since the beginning.

Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#17 - 2016-05-01 20:54:28 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
So biggest goon operation we are about to see since the start of the war will be....

them brigading in the forums on alts claiming the new DD is OP and should be nerfed.

Because meta.

It's OP because it's not taking resists into account as it should.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2016-05-01 21:03:48 UTC
A pile of F1 monkeys each risking practically nothing warp into a simple trap by a pilot risking 100b+.
Let the tears flow.

I bet you're just mad Martinni expertly buried your whole super fleet.

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Pryce Caesar
Cloak and Daggers
The Initiative.
#19 - 2016-05-01 21:44:45 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
So biggest goon operation we are about to see since the start of the war will be....

them brigading in the forums on alts claiming the new DD is OP and should be nerfed.

Because meta.

It's OP because it's not taking resists into account as it should.


Oh it took resists into account, according to the devs. The problem seemed to be that sig radius wasn't taken into account in the equation.
PAPULA
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#20 - 2016-05-02 00:47:48 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Max Trix
16,7 billion killed ?

*Snip* No Killboards in GD.*snip* ISD Max Trix

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