Market Discussions

As the owner of a Halaima Minerbumping Ipo share(I didn't receive my share yet James ) I have decided to try to monetise the value of my share by attempting to create a secondary market in the shares. With a 1,000,000+ shares in existence I see a huge unexploited opportunity here.

The offer :-

Buy :- I guarantee to buy the 1st 2,000 shares offered to me at a price of 750,000 isk per share.
Sell :- I guarantee to offer any shares I acquire at a price of 850,000 isk per share.

I guarantee to make this offer 5 times the terms of which might vary depending on the results of the prior offer. My minimum offer price will be 500,000 isk per share. My maximum offer price will depend on demand.

Obviously if I am inundated with shares for which i get no offers the buy price of the second tranche will be lower and the sell price will be lower. I will vary the terms of the 5 tranches depending on what happens.

Thus I am committing myself to offering to buy 10,000 shares. Obviously my long term aim would be to offer to buy ALL of the shares.

If I am successful in creating a market I will continue to offer to buy shares on an ongoing basis.

If you think this is a scam or you doubt my honesty just move along

If you wish to sell shares you can do so publically or privately. To publically sell shares post your offer in this thread. When I post confirmation send me the shares and I will pay by return To privately sell me shares Evemail me and we can go from there.

If anybody feels the need for a third party then Chribba, Grendell or Darkness would be acceptable and you pay the fees.

Buyers must post their offers in this thread.

Thank you for reading this

Each share in the New Order costs 1,000,000.
Let's say just for the sake of easy maths they've taken 1.5 trillion ISK for shares.
That equates to 1.5 million shares.

Where you think 8 billion shares are going to come from is a work of fantasy.

Also 8 billion shares, even if they existed, at a price of 250,000 each would cost you 2 thousand trillion ISK = 2 quadrillion ?
I get confused when that many zeros are involved. It's 2 followed by 15 zeros.

All shares certificates in the New Order are held in perpetuity by James 315 for the good of us all. This is right and proper. I cannot think of a safer pair of hands.

I hope for the sake of your investors that your grasp of maths is not always this poor.
You are good for gargantuan quantities of salt though.

I'm sorry, but you were probably scammed then.

I don't think you are going to have many takers. Offering fire sale prices for one of the best investment vehicles in all of New Eden is a doomed endeavour. Not only is having a say in the future of highsec when a vote is called by the Saviour of incalculable value, only a Goofus would willingly part with their shares when there is still so much left to do to improve highsec.

I know you want to own more shares in the New Order, but there are more legit ways to go about that than trying to scam unwary players out of their shares. Just send your ISK directly to James 315 and he will got you some clean and legal shares. Trust me, you'll sleep better at night knowing you earned those shares fair and square, not like a dirty RMTer on some grey-market of your own creation.

You can't make up your own rules then lawyer them, especially when you had no regard for the rules the other week.

Very few people use the in-game shares feature due to its inherent insecurities and the fact that it's been ignored since implementation.

You're still going about this the wrong way.

Well you don't have to sell all of them

I genuinely don't know whether there can be a secondary market or at what level it might settle. Obviously since there is apparently an inexhaustible supply of shares they will always trade below par. But how far below par? I've no idea.
I thought long and hard about what level to make the 1st offer.
I think that 250000 isk per share is a pretty fair offer for shares that currently have no monetary value

I'm still looking to buy shares. Just sell a part of your holding. Let me create value for you

New Order shares are worth their full face value of 1 million ISK. The market says so otherwise why would people keep buying new ones at face value? If it were not for the infinite supply, they would surely be worth many times their face value.

Not everything should be judged solely in terms of base ISK values. This is probably the core tenet of the New Order - there are bigger more important things than ISK in Eve. To judge New Order shares purely in ISK value is to be ignorant that the ISK value of New Order shares is the very smallest measure of their worth. They stand for so much more than base ISK. Each share purchase is not an investment in greed, it is an investment in the future of Eve. They are priceless.

If you are so orientated in greed and profit before the philosophy of altruism and higher goals, why do you choose New Order shares to invest in?

There must be many commercial outfits in Eve whose shares would meet your rather blinkered ISK first mentality much better.
And yet you choose to try and make profit from the most altruistic organisation in all of New Eden.
Perhaps your subconscious can see the light of higher purpose and it is trying to send you a message?
Open your mind to the love of the New Order, and begin your journey to enlightenment.
I wish you well on your journey, and I feel very excited for your leap of faith off the abyss of greed.
May James 315 guide your footsteps and watch over you.

This is ridiculous. As others have said, this is about much more than just mere ISK, and if you can't grasp that then your venture is a waste of electrons as you have failed to comprehend and take into account why these shares are valuable in the first place.


By the way, don't you think that it's in extremely bad taste for you to constantly parrot 'On topic posts only' in every post you make, considering that you blundered into the Minerbumping thread last week and proceeded to basically **** everywhere, including making personal attacks against other players and against CCP staff/volunteers?

You don't have a leg to stand on, Fun Fin Fon, and you are clearly trolling again. Better you stick to your rep-scam effort than continue to pollute the forums.

Holding shares in CODE. means something more than just monetary value. Those shares make you part of something larger than yourself.

I don't see you getting any takers, shareholders are very proud of what they have, and what they've contributed to.