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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#61 - 2016-04-27 15:29:28 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Ms. Vess, respectfully, could you maybe keep in mind that this is a public forum you're arguing in and maybe people other than Ms. Kim are going to read your posts?

Ya, your right, guess my temper got the better of me.
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#62 - 2016-04-29 00:09:02 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I haven't seen gallentean propagandists more cruel than you, Syagrius. You will pay for your foul words.

Oh dear… It truly is challenging having a tête-à-tête with you my dear Ms. Kim, as I always seem to be upsetting you.

I can assure you I am not a propagandist as there is usually a good deal of truth in my lies.

That being said, as to payment… I can pay in whatever coin you may require.

“Here also are the heralds of his praise."
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#63 - 2016-04-29 02:30:52 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

If you have to chime in, you could do it honorably, but not like a last forum troll by your idiotic attempt to replace my words with your delusions.

You know, a true warrior uses what they have at hand to strike their enemies, especially if it works efficiently. You attack my close allies, so I attacked back with the most effective weapon at hand. You blame me for knowing what essentially my enemy in this circumstance has as a weakness and exploiting it? Honor is wasted on stupidity as they say.... So looks like honors out of the itinerary for me towards you in this particular engagement.

Since people have eyes and can read what I have written, and what you did, if you have damaged someone's reputation, it's your own, Vess. As we were taught honor is not for the enemies. Honor is for ourselves.
And what that "weakness" of mine shall be? I see only your futile attempts at lying and trolling, without doing anything wrong or damaging to me.

Deitra Vess wrote:

Just like your tortured Caldari POW buddies in that "freedom camp" when it blew up while you tried to free them right? Forgive me if I'm wrong on that, I don't recall your report on it from a while back word for word, but I do remember you referring to watching them either freeze, or burn due to the explosion or whatever.. Though I will say, my friends don't burn to death because I screwed up generally..... If you wish to refer to those who fly with me by your pet name, whatever. Does this mean I can refer to yours as Achuran Style bbqed Spare Ribs?

And again, you know where I am, feel free to stop by for a "chat."

Well, thanks for showing us all what your people are truly are.

And about that "pet name", when they are called "Freedom Fighters" it is their pet name? So, freedom fighters are pets? Good to know too. Doesn't make them any better anyway.

Sinti Vailatti wrote:

Look sister, I have zero love for the Republic. But at least I can differentiate between Matari and Tribal Republicans. You need to learn the difference too, before you get on here and start bad-mouthing an entire race. Matari are everywhere. We fight for the Empire, we trade in Caldari. We shop in Gallente. We're Angels. We're Guristas. We're Bloodraiders and Sansha and Goons. We make your weapons, construct your ships, paint your pretty little rubber torpedoes. We're your MedBay staff and the people who make sure your clone activates. Don't. ****. Us. Off.

Not all Matari fight for the Republic. Just like not all Caldari are washed-up Provists chasing the Holy C*ck of Tibus Heth. Matari are not your enemy...yet...


I never really met any minmatar before I became a capsuleer, and all my knowledge about them comes from interaction with... yes, with Minmatar capsuleers... Ones like Deitra Vess.

And I don't trust my body in MedBay to anyone except Caldari, thank you.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#64 - 2016-04-29 02:32:41 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
I haven't seen gallentean propagandists more cruel than you, Syagrius. You will pay for your foul words.

Oh dear… It truly is challenging having a tête-à-tête with you my dear Ms. Kim, as I always seem to be upsetting you.

I can assure you I am not a propagandist as there is usually a good deal of truth in my lies.

Telling public lie among a 'good deal of truth' is... well, it is public spreading of lies AND propaganda, since your lies are targeted against Caldari.

James Syagrius wrote:

That being said, as to payment… I can pay in whatever coin you may require.

Your life.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Ollie Rundle
#65 - 2016-04-30 01:35:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Ollie Rundle
You know what I've never seen but wish I had in five years of Kim's diatribes? A thread where everyone replies in either haiku or limerick form. If nothing else it might be an amusing changeup to the usual mix of outrage and tongue-in-cheek trolling.

Edit to add: And given the original methods of torture themed topic of this latest rant a little amateur poetry might even have some relevance.
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2016-04-30 01:53:37 UTC
Ollie Rundle wrote:
You know what I've never seen but wish I had in five years of Kim's diatribes? A thread where everyone replies in either haiku or limerick form. If nothing else it might be an amusing changeup to the usual mix of outrage and tongue-in-cheek trolling.

Edit to add: And given the original methods of torture themed topic of this latest rant a little amateur poetry might even have some relevance.


My Dearest Kimmie.
Gallente did nothing wrong.
Do not get angry.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Rook Moray
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2016-04-30 02:39:57 UTC
Ollie Rundle wrote:
You know what I've never seen but wish I had in five years of Kim's diatribes? A thread where everyone replies in either haiku or limerick form. If nothing else it might be an amusing changeup to the usual mix of outrage and tongue-in-cheek trolling.

Edit to add: And given the original methods of torture themed topic of this latest rant a little amateur poetry might even have some relevance.



There once was a girl named Diana
With a body like a banana
On IGS she'd cry,
All Gallente must die!
And don't trust Makoto Priana!

“When you want to know how things really work, study them when they're coming apart.” -Guristas Proverb.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#68 - 2016-04-30 03:20:23 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

I never really met any minmatar before I became a capsuleer, and all my knowledge about them comes from interaction with... yes, with Minmatar capsuleers... Ones like Deitra Vess.

And I don't trust my body in MedBay to anyone except Caldari, thank you.

Well, you shouldn't judge an entire race based on what a few Capsuleers you met are like. For the most part, we are a race of our own with ties and sometimes loyalty to a given faction or empire. Also, seeing as how most clone bay are run by CONCORD, I don't think you really have a say in who monitors your clones or who gets to wake you up after you explode.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#69 - 2016-04-30 08:13:36 UTC
Jason Galente wrote:

My Dearest Kimmie.
Gallente did nothing wrong.
Do not get angry.

That's terribly ignorant of you.
Nothing wrong?! Now I consider shall I put a challenge to you like I did to that clown Syagrius, or you will take your *** into your hands and will go find facts yourself before I push your nose into them to display it to whole IGS?

But yes, there goes actually a question, are you simply ignorant loudmouth, jumping into conclusion without even bothering to check the facts, or you are deliberately cruel and inhuman gallentean propagandist, trying to hide obvious truth, that every capsuleer with working head can easily uncover?

Oh well, to remove ambiguity I will point out clearly.
The topic was about torture and Galelnte are known for their inhuman tortures of Caldari POWs in hidden prisons in Black Rise (which aren't hidden to capsuleers, who can use probe scanners). Claiming that "Gallente did nothing wrong" obviously contradicts this fact (and many others which I won't list here, since just this one is more than enough... for a start... and because that would be way far out of scope of the current discussion).

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#70 - 2016-04-30 08:32:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

I never really met any minmatar before I became a capsuleer, and all my knowledge about them comes from interaction with... yes, with Minmatar capsuleers... Ones like Deitra Vess.

And I don't trust my body in MedBay to anyone except Caldari, thank you.

Well, you shouldn't judge an entire race based on what a few Capsuleers you met are like. For the most part, we are a race of our own with ties and sometimes loyalty to a given faction or empire.

WHY shouldn't I?
Have you studied math?

Imagine you have a set A. You pick element A1, it has value 1, you pick element A2, it has value 1, you pick element A20, it has value 1, you pick element A555, it has value 1. By a method called 'induction' you make a conclusion that all elements of a set A have value 1.

Well, sorry, I forgot I am dealing with Claudia. Okay, lets try to use something that you will more likely understand. Lately one man has offered me a bag of this potato food, called like electronic devices.... yes, chips. Okay, lets imagine you are offering me a bag of chips and tell me "they are good, fresh chips". I pull one chip, and it is a rotten chip. I pull third chip, it is a rotten chip as well. I pull out two more chips, and they are again all rotten. But you are saying they all are good and fresh.

You know, I don't fall on propaganda and empty words like gallenteans do. I believe facts and logic, but not words that contradict them. That's why I will believe my observation, but not what you are telling me. And so I will make a conclusion that chips in the bag are all rotten.

Claudia Osyn wrote:
Also, seeing as how most clone bay are run by CONCORD, I don't think you really have a say in who monitors your clones or who gets to wake you up after you explode.

Nuh-uh. They are ran by the owners of the station, and you can choose which corporation will you trust your body.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2016-04-30 08:35:52 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Jason Galente wrote:

My Dearest Kimmie.
Gallente did nothing wrong.
Do not get angry.

That's terribly ignorant of you.
Nothing wrong?! Now I consider shall I put a challenge to you like I did to that clown Syagrius, or you will take your *** into your hands and will go find facts yourself before I push your nose into them to display it to whole IGS?

But yes, there goes actually a question, are you simply ignorant loudmouth, jumping into conclusion without even bothering to check the facts, or you are deliberately cruel and inhuman gallentean propagandist, trying to hide obvious truth, that every capsuleer with working head can easily uncover?

Oh well, to remove ambiguity I will point out clearly.
The topic was about torture and Galelnte are known for their inhuman tortures of Caldari POWs in hidden prisons in Black Rise (which aren't hidden to capsuleers, who can use probe scanners). Claiming that "Gallente did nothing wrong" obviously contradicts this fact (and many others which I won't list here, since just this one is more than enough... for a start... and because that would be way far out of scope of the current discussion).


Was expecting at least two angry paragraphs.

Wasn't disappointed.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#72 - 2016-04-30 09:14:04 UTC
You haven't answered the question.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
#73 - 2016-04-30 09:36:38 UTC
Pot, meet Kettle.

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#74 - 2016-04-30 10:41:10 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

WHY shouldn't I?
Have you studied math?

Imagine you have a set A. You pick element A1, it has value 1, you pick element A2, it has value 1, you pick element A20, it has value 1, you pick element A555, it has value 1. By a method called 'induction' you make a conclusion that all elements of a set A have value 1.

Well, sorry, I forgot I am dealing with Claudia. Okay, lets try to use something that you will more likely understand. Lately one man has offered me a bag of this potato food, called like electronic devices.... yes, chips. Okay, lets imagine you are offering me a bag of chips and tell me "they are good, fresh chips". I pull one chip, and it is a rotten chip. I pull third chip, it is a rotten chip as well. I pull out two more chips, and they are again all rotten. But you are saying they all are good and fresh.

You know, I don't fall on propaganda and empty words like gallenteans do. I believe facts and logic, but not words that contradict them. That's why I will believe my observation, but not what you are telling me. And so I will make a conclusion that chips in the bag are all rotten.

Well Kimmy, the only potato here is you. The problem with induction is, the larger the numbers get and the more X-factors you try to account for, the less reliable it is. The Federation has more people than you can ever account for, with more variables between them than you can imagine. You are taking your samples from a vary vary vary vary narrow slice of the whole. Your entire argument is biased, because you only either have access to or choose to look at the subjects who display the qualities that give them the value your looking for. That is both bad science and a poor execution of mathematics.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#75 - 2016-04-30 13:25:43 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

WHY shouldn't I?
Have you studied math?

Imagine you have a set A. You pick element A1, it has value 1, you pick element A2, it has value 1, you pick element A20, it has value 1, you pick element A555, it has value 1. By a method called 'induction' you make a conclusion that all elements of a set A have value 1.

Well, sorry, I forgot I am dealing with Claudia. Okay, lets try to use something that you will more likely understand. Lately one man has offered me a bag of this potato food, called like electronic devices.... yes, chips. Okay, lets imagine you are offering me a bag of chips and tell me "they are good, fresh chips". I pull one chip, and it is a rotten chip. I pull third chip, it is a rotten chip as well. I pull out two more chips, and they are again all rotten. But you are saying they all are good and fresh.

You know, I don't fall on propaganda and empty words like gallenteans do. I believe facts and logic, but not words that contradict them. That's why I will believe my observation, but not what you are telling me. And so I will make a conclusion that chips in the bag are all rotten.

Well Kimmy, the only potato here is you. The problem with induction is, the larger the numbers get and the more X-factors you try to account for, the less reliable it is. The Federation has more people than you can ever account for, with more variables between them than you can imagine. You are taking your samples from a vary vary vary vary narrow slice of the whole. Your entire argument is biased, because you only either have access to or choose to look at the subjects who display the qualities that give them the value your looking for. That is both bad science and a poor execution of mathematics.

Speaking about potatoes, Osie, you dare to claim that I am taking the samples. But I don't. Samples 'take' me.
Look for example at yourself as one of such samples. Did I ever ask you to 'come and represent Federation for me', because I consider you an irrelevant gallentean pet and troll and that will help me to match qualities I look in gallenteans? No, I haven't. You simply jumped in and has shown everyone around your real gallentean face.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
#76 - 2016-04-30 13:40:07 UTC
if you don't like members of the public responding to your bile Diana, perhaps you should leave the public forums.
I assure you, the cluster would thank you for it.

-Tertianus Rethelior

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2016-04-30 13:43:18 UTC
No matter the day,
Gallente did nothing wrong,
And nor could they ever.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Ollie Rundle
#78 - 2016-04-30 13:49:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Ollie Rundle
Diana Kim wrote:
Jason Galente wrote:

My Dearest Kimmie.
Gallente did nothing wrong.
Do not get angry.

That's terribly ignorant of you.
Nothing wrong?! Now I consider shall I put a challenge to you like I did to that clown Syagrius, or you will take your *** into your hands and will go find facts yourself before I push your nose into them to display it to whole IGS?

But yes, there goes actually a question, are you simply ignorant loudmouth, jumping into conclusion without even bothering to check the facts, or you are deliberately cruel and inhuman gallentean propagandist, trying to hide obvious truth, that every capsuleer with working head can easily uncover?

Oh well, to remove ambiguity I will point out clearly.
The topic was about torture and Galelnte are known for their inhuman tortures of Caldari POWs in hidden prisons in Black Rise (which aren't hidden to capsuleers, who can use probe scanners). Claiming that "Gallente did nothing wrong" obviously contradicts this fact (and many others which I won't list here, since just this one is more than enough... for a start... and because that would be way far out of scope of the current discussion).

Nothing wrong she keens
Screams to the inhuman void
Blah blah something blah
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#79 - 2016-04-30 13:49:22 UTC
iyammarrok wrote:
if you don't like members of the public responding to your bile Diana, perhaps you should leave the public forums.
I assure you, the cluster would thank you for it.

-Tertianus Rethelior

Or perhaps you shall stop trolling and speaking stupid things, the cluster would thank you for it.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#80 - 2016-04-30 13:52:31 UTC
Ollie Rundle wrote:

Nothing wrong she keens
Screams to the inhuman void
Blah blah something blah

If that's all your brain could produce, better keep it to yourself and don't waste time of IGS readers with your blabla-ing. Or just call yourself a nurse.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.