Science & Industry

Hello Everyone,

I just wanted to let you all know that I have officially taken over EVE IPH in place of Zifrian; I'm creating a new thread for the new version. I'm SUPER excited to work on this and I hope you all enjoy some of the new features. There are some issues with the Citadel release, so hopefully this works well for you. I will keep this post updated with known issues, etc.

Take Care and Fly Safe o7

-Cwittofur

Current Version 3.3.5978.26046

You can download it here http://eveiph.github.io

Database updated to the Citadel Release

* Fixed issue where Blueprint Search text box would become unresponsive.
* Fixed issue where Corp Assets weren't being included in material list.
* Double-Click will now select all text in the Blueprint Box.
* Fighter Drones now show up when Drones are selected in the BP List
* Speed has been improved when loading the BP List
* Fixed occasional crashes when double-clicking on an empty item in a list.

New Features:

1) Blueprint Selection re-vamped. The text box now has fully integrated search. You can type in any part of a blueprint name and it will display a list of items matching the criteria. You can use the up/down arrow on your keyboard or double-click on an item to load it.

2) Blueprint List - This opens a new window which will display a hierarchical view of Blueprints. (It does take a couple seconds to load; that's a known issue). From here, the original functionality of searching based on Ship, Drone, Modules, etc. As well as by size is implemented. The window will remain open until closed. While the window is open you can double-click on any blueprint to load it. This provides a faster lookup than searching each time.

3) Compressed Ore Calculations - Enabled by checking the "Compressed Ore" checkbox at the bottom of the window. This will calculate Compressed Ore quantities and types based on Null Sec Ore (for now) which will provide you the minerals you need to build your desired item. That being said there are some caveats to this:

3a) If using a station, the station's refine rate will be calculated. If using a POS it will calculate based off a 52% refine rate. If using an Outpost it will calculate based off a 50% refine rate. This will be enhanced in a future version.

3b) This does take into account the users' skills as well as Beancounter implants.

3c) The location chosen for the manufacturing will be used to calculate the ore needed. Perhaps in a future release I will implement the option to refine at a different location other than where the item is being built.

3d) In order for the data to be calculated you need to click the "Refresh" button. You only need to do this once, as long as the application is running. When the application is restarted the checkbox will be unchecked.


KNOWN ISSUES

- If the Update fails; run Eve Isk per Hour as administrator.
- Blueprint List is showing incorrect items.

Yes

It didn't auto update for me but you can force it from within IPH (tell it to check for updates on one of the menus). Works great. Thrilled to see it continuing.

I was having some issues with the updater code late last night. It should work for you now though :)

What better way to welcome you in this new thread than some sweet sweet bug report?

Let's start with the "big one". IPH sometimes crashes after switching the new Compressed Ore functionality on. I can't tell exactly when, it dosn't look like there's a real pattern. This is the report



Then the minor ones, mostly about UI functionalities and the bpo search.

- no more autoselect the whole field in the bpo tab. Now you should have to double/triple click in order to change your selection but.....

- double click doesn't work in the search bpo tab. You manually have to drag the curson across the entry you have selected at the moment in order to insert a new one

- no more autocomplete when only 1 item is left (always in the search bpo tab). For instance if you start typing "cur" you'll have a bunch of items in the drop down menu (correct), if you go on and make it "curs" only two are left (still correct: incursus and curse) but if you type "curse" it doesn't select it automatically

- double clicking on the buy/build window basically makes the program enter "game over" mode : it doesn't show the correct output and disables any further search in the bpo tab. Example: I wanna build 1 hound, I select the bpo, decryptors and whatever else and click enter, then it tells me that "ladar sensor cluster" are better to buy than to build so I double click them to see in detail how's the situation but.... it doesn't show anything in the material list and I cannot search anything at all in the bpo search thingy. All I can do is restart the program.

I think it's enough for today, signing off

Unfortunately I thought it was something like that (too long integer) but it isn't. Try with 1 atron and see :)

I noticed it never does it if you have Compressed ores selected first and then switch to raw, even if then you go back again to compressed. Dunno if it matters or it's still that kinda random behaviour.

Ah and since we're here, I know you mentioned it in the OP but the Ore Compression formula doesn't take into account skills so it's basically unusable, there's a 20-ish% difference in yields results with "real ores" refined at "real places".

Anyway, thanks for your prompte response

Yeah those starting values are correct but with skills you end up having 75-78% in a pos and the 4% implant. I don't know exacly in station (should be 67-70%?) but if you try building (say) 10 Rattlesnakes in IPH now and you check the yields.... okay lemme take some screenshots:

IPH Raw Min: http://i.imgur.com/eumfgJg.jpg

IPH Blocks: http://i.imgur.com/oqfpVcS.jpg

Then from my spreadsheet where yield is in the top left corner in green

0.78 (my actual yield): http://i.imgur.com/cPRvMsp.jpg

0.56 (what looks like the calculated yield in IPH): http://i.imgur.com/Bo3Z3ev.jpg

So I assumed it doesn't take skills into account v0v

edit: and by the way you can see how inserting exactly the same blocks IPH suggests all the values of the refined minerals are far off those shown in my spreadsheet whatever the yield is. Which may imply my ss in wrong of course. It may

Yep I use a base of 54% that's why it's 78%. Anyway what I was saying with those screenshots is that IPH shows a much lower yield than 78 or even 74, more like 56. So our maths are the same but if you see how much _minerals_ you get from the blocks shown by IPH, you'll see it's just about 56%. If you try in "real life" you'll end up with a lot more in the bag, which of course you paied for.

Ok so I re-checked with shuttles (which requires trit only) and I can confirm in that case it's absolutely accurate, at about 71-72% yield so _the maths are not in discussion here_

What may be the issue is how you reiterate the calculations. Again, if you try parsing the blocks given for 10 bs (tried with many, always the same kind of result) like Rattlesnakes in the example above you can see that you end up with quite the right amount of megacyte (48365 in my ss vs 48211 in IPH, pretty much the same) but about 30 million extra trit (118M vs 91M required), and that's almost the same for all the others (except megacyte)

EDIT: these last numbers I posted are referring to 10 Pests (what I was looking at) sorry not 10 Snakes as in the post above, anyway.... guess the point is clear :p

Yeah yeah it's all good bud I really appreciate the feature and everything I was just reporting in

Maybe you could try the other way around, instead that going from trit to mega, try from mega to trit. But I think once you'll implement highsec ores too and eventually the chance to sort the ones you prefer and exclude those you don't want (in a separete tab like the new BP List View you made) it will be much easier to fine-tune the output.

But I'm totally taking back the thing about unusability, I'm gonna say "for the moment I wouldn't trust it completely" ahahah

Ah, and I know my maths too

Mkay, back to spinning o/