Player Features and Ideas Discussion

True enough. If you fly an exploration frigate with SoE launchers and probes, plus a similarly high price combined analyser, then you become a juicy and easy target. So there's a trade-off in bling fitting between better stats and higher risk.

However, the problem is that this pitches the new module at older players. It's not just that a newbie would have to save up for their first combined module. It's also the old adage of not flying what you cannot afford... Not only do older players have more spare cash, they also (generally) have more experience and are less likely to die in a bling fit.

I still think the best idea here is to only have combined modules in the future. That does not mean that relic and data sites become the same, it simply acknowledges the fact that we are playing the same underlying hack mini-game anyhow. The current situation is a bit like producing only computers with usb or thunderbolt ports, but not possibly with both, and considering it impossible to combine these ports into one device. Frankly, technology moves past such hurdles within a few years every time.

I also do not think that the boost of "gaining a mid-slot" will be overpowered for the vast majority of dual module users. Most will probably fit a Rangefinding or Pinpointing Array, or perhaps a Cargo Scanner. That will provide a small but entirely controlled advantage to them. For people that fly only one module now, it will mostly mean that instead of a relic analyser they will have a combined analyser and could theoretically also hack data sites. Again, that's not really a big deal.

So, just do the obvious here: fuse Tech 1 data and relic analysers into one Tech 1 analyser, do the same for Tech 2, and perhaps add some faction versions which for example trade CPU usage against hack stats.

It makes sense conceptually, it gives a mild but controlled boost to explorers (in particular newbie ones who can fit an additional array!), and it avoids the complications of making the combined module artificially competitive for explorers.

As for the skills, they don't actually have to be fused, at least not immediately! You could say that they represent the skills of applying the combined module to the specific case (data or relic). So depending on what kind of site you are in, you get the stats from the respective skill.

Make data sights worth it first

Better, but depends entirely on how much they end up costing... they are mostly being fitted to frigates after all, and about the most pricey module people are willing to fit to them is a sisters launcher @ 40m.

Not just slightly, these stats look so much better now!
Thank you RedDawn!

Edit:
Is there an ETA for these modules? Or just "Soon(TM)"?

idea is nice, i dont have realy have time for reading all post so i just write what i think, if you make multihack thingy and it is faction it shoud have the same strengf then t2 versions, becouse it will be significly more expensive, if you make t2 version it is resonable it will have less strengh then t2 single spec hack modules, without facion single sepc hack modules in game wich should have better hack strengh, or less skill requirments with t2 stenght and smaller fitting requirmens, or bouth of this two characteristic. making muti spec wich be much more expensive and have smaller strength then t2 i think dont find almoust none customers and it will be waste of your work.

In my opinion make the normal modules do both, and make them into one module with keeping the strength the same.

If you guys insist on still making a new module with lower strength, consider making the fitting way higher instead of the lower strength because you need every bit of Coherence/Strength. It's not like exploration is especially lucrative now anyways unless you get extremely lucky and don't get ganked.

Sorry if I missed it but what are the exact skill requirements to equip these? Does T2 strength require V in both hacking and archeology?

If the advanced one requires less than V/V then fitting these will be a no brainer compared to a 23 day train.

People did, but I thought it was almost irrelevant. If you've got two utilities neither of which you had a compelling use for, you uncover a third, but then it ends up under a defensive node because you couldn't pick it up... this is not exactly likely, and

Changing the utility of the directional information might offer considerable scope for module differentiation.

In the earlier posts I mention that I've increased the Strength values to the same as the Tech I and Tech II variants.
I've also updated the initial post.

These new analyzers now only have 1 less utility slot, less Coherence and a higher CPU requirement.

I like this idea. Data and Relic analysers as separate modules for what is exactly the same role (hacking a little can) has always struck me as a bit daft. There is no real choice to be made, especially now after the advent of mobile depots.