EVE New Citizens Q&A

Recently, there has been a change here.

Previously, an attribute was displayed called Tracking Speed, which I found very useful.

This has now been replaced with Weapon Accuracy.... and I find myself somewhat at a loss.

With Tracking Speed, I could set my Overview to display target Angular Velocity, and know that, all things (read: maths) being equal, I would hit when Tracking Speed was greater then Angular Velocity, with a small amount of 'grey area' when the numbers were very close.

I no longer have Tracking Speed. Now, I have Weapon Accuracy. So, precisely what should my overview display to similarly equate to what I'm used to using?

in that case.... don't remove tracking speed till it's done! Your severaly nerfing a LOT of eve players that are aware of this method of 'on the fly' accuracy determination until the new system is fully in place!

two actually, slacking on the job there Fractal

If you fly well enough, you won't have to worry much about all that mental math. This tracking concept has existed as an issue from the days of the first turrets.

You'd actually need to know if the tracking game mechanic is accurate, I can tell you from my own testing... it doesn't appear to be. I think they kinda fudged on the math here because doing too much of it would probably burden the systems. In the end, it appears to be a rough approximation of tracking math which is actually far more reality than most games put into turret issues, so kudos to CCP there.

I have found that if you put your target into a tail chase, or you on chase on them, your turrets are pretty accurate as the Angular Velocity (to use the term used above) is not that great. Your target is in a 'cone' of acceptable tracking for the weapons to fire. If you have a high rate of transverse, (you are being orbited) then your turrets have horrible precision. If you are orbiting someone that isn't moving off their relative position from you much in transverse, it's like the chase scenario.

So your job as the ship pilot is to stabilize the relative positions of the ships from each other. Try flying like this some time, it's not easy but if you can get the hang of it, it works and you can dispense with the mental math gymnastics. However, unless you can get into the golden position of being the orbing on vs. being orbited, your foe will have about as much of a firing advantage as you do, and if they are smaller, they will always have the firing advantage up close. Distance is your friend to cut down on tracking problems. It's why I like to engage targets at beyond 30km out.

Now, the reality being different from the game, the most modern systems will not 'fire' wasted shots unless they are overridden to do so. They will wait until they have a track on the target and have a chance at hitting it. Most projectiles have proximity detonation now to increase that effectiveness zone of the target. The weapons have their own sensor systems and command to projectile systems that leave the turret in full control of itself. Here's a system that's been around for a few years now.

Well, when doing any sort of PvE combat, I mostly use amarr cruisers, and I know that with T2 Pulse/Scorch or Imp Nav Multi (switched when they get 'under my guns' with the Scorch) I could, at my leasure, either orbit, 'chase', or just sit still if I was being particularly lazy, and regardless of target size, directly compare my Tracking Speed vs target Angular Velocity (ignoring for the time being that 'gray area' when the two numbers were 'close') know with certainty that I would hit or miss, and if I were to miss, then do something to make the target angular drop.

in 6 years, this method of dealing with rats in combat has never failed me (at least, with my medium lasers, and again, regardless of the target's size, whether frig, cruiser, or bs).

Look, I'mm not arguing against displaying the Weapon Speed. I admit, it is nice to be able to look at weapon A and compare that attribute vs weapon B along side of raw damage effects to better determine which you want to use.


All I'm saying is, ALSO keep Tracking Speed listed. Is it really so hard to keep in place a line item number in the show info panel?

At LEAST until you decide to properly adjust Overview options to provide us with a proper reflection of this new Weapon Accuracy.

all I know is, when I'm dealing with PvE, I tend to fly amarr cruisers, specifically, laser boats. In my experience with these, I have always found that comparing my current tracking speed vs target angular velocity, whether a frigate or otherwise, has always proved whether I was hitting or not while within optimal range.

the Devs are now claiming that by their math, I must be wrong.

I don't know what math they are using. I didn't use any math, I just compared the numbers and found them accurate. The only thing I saw target signature radius affect was how much damage I was hitting for.

But, see, that in and of itself, then, is a problem! By just rolling over on it and letting the issue 'die', we are in essence telling them that dealing with the issue doesn't matter. We need to be more vocal, get more people responding, not just let it drift off into thin air unresolved!

I believe there are plans in place to add a new overview column that shows "accuracy" or something to that effect.

However I do agree, replacing tracking speed with this bullshit before implementing the overview column to go with it was a really stupid idea. Unfortunately this is concurrent with a lot of CCP's moves recently.

Effort........fly ship.....aim gun......shot gun......if lucky.......boom.....very rarely lucky......eve is hard.