Crime & Punishment

I realize that CCP aims to nerf highsec freighter ganking, but do they intend to end it all-together?

When the nerf to Awoxing was on the horizon, a desperate plea was made by the players and CCP had the good judgement to implement the toggle-switch, thus saving awoxing from total death.

Now, a nerf to freighter suicide ganking comes in the form of a 3-minute warp timer, and we need to try and reason with CCP to allow us more than just 3 measly minutes.

Just making it 5 minutes would make a world of difference.

I implore you, noble Devs, reconsider the practicality of recently proposed mechanics changes to bumping/warping.

Thank you.

It's only a nerf to ransoming scum pirates , sorry you need to work a bit harder. Tyyler DURden is right Facetious is a word that fits well here.

I have great news for you: bumping isn't required at all for freighter ganking.

Um... You do know the toggle switch was partially caused by us making a stink about it proving it was more than just AWOXers who used the feature. Maybe try to find others who support this outside your community so CCP realises the impact is larger than they initily thought.

You didn't answer my question (even though I already know its answer)

Freighter ganking without bumpers is feasible
BUT
It's nigh impossible if the dude is at his keyboard, for afk freighters, your only window is on the out - gate.
Bumping is a tool to give gankers a bigger ganking window than a minute for afk pilots.
it also lets them choose who and when they will strike (usually every 15-16 minutes as we all know)

Look at it this way:
If bumping only works for 3 minutes, freighter ganks will be as rare as me dying.
If there are no more freighter ganks, you lot will have nothing else to do (other than crying and waiting for a fleet to appear out of nowhere)

No freighter fleets = no AG
Every nerf to ganking is also directly Nerf in anti-ganking (especially in this case)
I can say with certainty that you guys won't follow solo gankers everywhere they go, hoping they undock to go shoot something.... you'll burn out faster than a house fire.

Think about it

I don't think any details went out about the timer reset (if there's even one)

A criminal gang ganking a moving and/or attentive target is near impossible without bumping or another form of tackling. It's as hard as killing any other moving ship without tackle and has the added complication that invincible NPCs spawn and blow you up if you wait in space for any length of time. If no tackle at all was allowed, the rate of freighter explosions would drop precipitously.

However, there is no reason to believe that will be the case. Rationality, and expediency suggest that a suicide point on a target will prevent warp and reset the timer (as it currently does - well not the timer as that doesn't exist but reset the warp attempt part). I am sure CCP will want to mess with the warp code as little as possible and given they claim to be nerfing bumping, not ganking, I don't see why they would waste the effort to rewrite that part of it. Gankers will adapt to using a suicide point.

If that is wrong, well then we can have some rancorous debates whether 3 minutes of tackle is sufficient time to get a fleet from station to the target. My initial thought is that it is not, given that would limit a criminal fleet only the the current system, but such discussion is premature. I'm sure the point (no pun intended) will be clarified eventually.

Is this a serious question?
I call troll on this one

Serious question and I would like a serious answer.

fair point