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Barakkus
#21 - 2012-01-13 15:45:03 UTC
Grog Drinker wrote:
Amun Khonsu wrote:
Dyaven wrote:
Why can't I catch one goddamned break? Is there any PVP left to be had with less than 10+ people, let alone one?


Short answer: No.

Unless you know someone who will honor a 1 v 1 (which is very rare), it is safe to assume there there is no 1 v 1 in EVE.


Our killboard paints a very different picture. Every day tusker pilots are able to find great 1v1 fights. Maybe your not looking in the right places.
http://tuskers.killmail.org/


Confirming Tuskers honor 1v1s.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc

Plutonian
Intransigent
#22 - 2012-01-13 16:22:30 UTC
It's called a slump, and all solo PvP pilots go through this occasionally. A string of losses is disheartening. When combined with two or three roams where you cannot find any targets you can engage, you begin to wonder why the hell you even play this game. You've had 'em before, and you're certain to have them again... it's the nature of the beast. Remember that it's the challenge of solo PvP that attracted you (hopefully)... not the supposed 'convenience'.

Tactics have changed extensively since even 2008. It feels like my opponents have gotten much smarter (or I've grown dumber... a distinct possibility). Where are the inty pilots who chase and warp to zero? Where did they go? Well... they evolved. Time for me (and you) to do the same.

I'd suggest shipping down to frigates until you get your feet under you again. The larger/more expensive the equipment put on the field, the more support it tends to gather. Also, true-solo (no alts/scouts/boosters/support) means smaller ships which have a chance of evading gatecamps.

I'd suggest moving to an area with a great deal of PvP. I operate one character in the Hevrice-OMS pipe, and another around Amamake (Siseide specifically). I only have a single account, but If one area's dead, I simply log on the other. Generally I can find something going on. The Tuskers (in Heverice) are great to engage, as they seem to prefer 'GUDFITES' to ganking. If you're flying T1/faction/assault frigs, keep an eye out for members of Black Rebel Rifter Club... they solo a great deal and are superb fighters. But get to an area with some fighting; pilots looking for action don't spend their nights prowling some Solitude backwater.

Lady Spank is dead-on. Best way to combat a slump is to read some good blogs and watch some fighting videos.

Once you start getting back into the swing of things, start shifting your targets up. If you're flying T1 frigs, start trying to take on faction frigs, destroyers, small gangs, etc. That is the true reward of solo PvP: hitting above your class and actually getting a win sometimes.

And, if all else fails, get in a frig, and if you're near Hevrice give Plutonian a shout, or if you're near Amamake watch for Cat Molina (usually loitering around the station where her Rifter is visible on scan to people crossing the system). Usually around 2300hrs to 0300hrs Eve time.

Good Luck.





Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#23 - 2012-01-13 16:41:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
Lady Spank wrote:
I can't believe how ******** most of the C&P community is these days, and given it's history that's REALLY shameful.

OP: Soloing in EVE is a sadistic move and unless you have spent a good amount of time trying it yourself it's really quite hard to convey just how tough it can be.

It's very common to have a string of bad engagements and start to feel that there is no point to it all but you have to break through that. Once you get another kill you will start to feel better about it. 4 losses in a row isn't really a significant amount but it's still demoralising.

Maybe you DO need to rethink your strategies. Could you have done something different in those situations? Could the Myrmidon's have burned back to gate and jumped out in time? The Ishkur dying to instalockers... same again (MWD?). As for the Pilgrim, while you have a cloak to deal with choke points etc. It's a very hard ship to solo in since you really need to be careful with your target selection.

As you say, it isn't the ISK, that's always easy to come by, but it's the feeling of hopelessness. Maybe take a short break, chill and check out some resources to give you some inspiration. I like checking out blogs like the brutor bullfighter and Kane Rizzels, Kil2's recent podcasts with Kovorix and his youtube channels breakdowns of individual engagements have all been very interesting to check out. I'll go ahead and pop some links in here for you.

Over and above all else, ignore the ******** badposters on the forums who either can't post on their mains because they are so bad or havent had a solo kill since June last year and even then it was a cyno imicus http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=13477036

BB http://brutorbullfighter.blogspot.com/
KR http://novakaneinc.blogspot.com/

Kil2/Kov https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=42133
Kil2 commentary http://www.youtube.com/user/jampyzero


And just what the Hell is your problem with small-gangers, anyway?

I've often said that that is my favourite form of PvP, and your approval, troll, doesn't mean ******* **** to me--as for the Imicus-gank:

I wanted to watch something urp-splode.
The opportunity to make something urp-splode presented itself.
So I made it urp-splode. Full-stop, end-of.

Like any of you wouldn't have done the same thing, give me a break alreadyRoll

E: But at least I do post on my main. Does that merit your so-infinitely-desirable-to-all approval, O Sainted One? FFS...

Ni.

Havegun Willtravel
Mobile Alcohol Processing Units
#24 - 2012-01-13 16:54:17 UTC
There's a reason very few people choose to solo PvP. It just might be the most brutal and frustrating way to play this game.

Unfortunately it's also the most rewarding and addictive way to play to.

Don't sweat 4 and Oh. It's the 14 and 0 weeks that will be the one's that truly test you.

Next, you need a change in tactics i think.

Start flying crap. Junk is easier to replace and requires you to do alot less pve so you can do more pvp. I can probably fit 10 vexors, ruptures, or rax's for the price of one pilgrim. Same goes for riffters and tristans vs an ishkur. If you like flying fancy look at the slicer, comet, firetail, hookbill. They're an amazing value vs most of the t2 stuff and can easily give them a run for their money.

Flying junk also gets you fights. Yes you'll loose alot of those fights BUT you wont be bored which = win. Not many people run from a t1 hull but they'll dock up fast if they even suspect you're in a recon or t3.

Lastly get organized. Different regions run hot to cold at different times of day so be prepared and set up to chase the action. Have 4 frigs and cruisers with spare mods and ammo pre-staged at multiple low sec entrances. This way when you die you don't waste 30 min flying to some trade hub to reship. This will make your assets page look like a disaster area but it gets you in and keeps you in the action which is what matters.

gl
Borun Tal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-01-13 17:13:41 UTC
I am sad for you, OP.

Well, not really. Adapt or die...

... or go back to your beloved WoW drama.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#26 - 2012-01-13 17:24:34 UTC
Jeez, I can't pretend to speak for the rest of us here but tbh we're getting pretty tired of hearing your constant whines.


There's not even any cheese to make things worth our while, so I think I might just politely show you the way to the door


/me thrusts in the direction of the door

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Rancyin
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#27 - 2012-01-13 18:08:08 UTC
Grab a HG/LG Slave or Crystal set. combined with a booster alt. jump into low sec.

Become god of that system. esp if you have gate guns on your side.

SImple.

Princess Bride
SharkNado
#28 - 2012-01-13 18:19:13 UTC
So.... what exactly was the crime/punishment here? Seems to be all about warfare... and evolving tactics... Sure wish we had a forum for that. Roll

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/

Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#29 - 2012-01-13 19:24:38 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
So.... what exactly was the crime/punishment here? Seems to be all about warfare... and evolving tactics... Sure wish we had a forum for that. Roll


It got ganked. Because of Falcon (TM).

Ni.

Zixie Draco
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2012-01-13 19:52:57 UTC


I told you in your last emo thread... Quit.

Would you like a kitten?

BuzzyBeagle
Centers for Intergalactic Mercantile Acquisition
#31 - 2012-01-13 20:04:04 UTC
Dyaven wrote:
I'm starting to lose my mind here. PVP in EVE is not what it used to be. I enjoy playing solo. Yes, multiplayer game, blah blah, but shooting players is as much multiplayer interaction as I need. I have WoW for group drama and such. Anywho, I'm just in a real slum and I don't know what to do. I enjoy EVE, I really do, but it seems like the game itself is trying really hard to change that.

I am at 4 losses in a row in 3 days now with 0 kills inbetween. Two Myrmidons, an Ishkur and just now a Pilgrim - and a Pod, if that counts. The isk isn't the issue. Incursions are absurd and I make back the total combined isk loss in a day. The fact that all of those ships didn't last more than a few hours is what's really irking me, and the fact that I have changed nothing from my old tactics that used to work. I have scoured lowsec for hours - all it seems to lead to is me inevitably getting caught in a gatecamp. That's what happened to the Myrmidons. Thinking I should try something smaller, since most of the targets tend to be small anyways, I hopped into an Ishkur, jumped into OMS and instantly died to an instalock gatecamp.

I then decided to put my neglected Amarr Cruiser V to good use and try out a Pilgrim. Scoured lowsec for 4+ hours with not even a missed target - literally zero targets. I effortlessly breezed past several gatecamps with the Covops cloak and thought I had finally picked the right ship for the job. Frustrated at the lack of targets, I hopped on an alt and scouted out a nullsec entrace and the surrounding area. Devoid of gatecamps. I log back over to my main and jump in - 20+ ships now surround the gate in the 45 seconds it took for me to switch characters.

So now i'm sitting in Dodixie in my Machariel with a fresh set of implants, wondering why I should even bother hopping over to the nearby Incursion. What is in this game for me? Why can't I catch one goddamned break? Is there any PVP left to be had with less than 10+ people, let alone one?


I suggest one of the two following remedies to your problem.

Pro Shipspinning

or

Mining in an untanked Mackinaw.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#32 - 2012-01-13 20:41:13 UTC
Ignore these spastics. Join in game channel c&p or catch me online

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)

Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#33 - 2012-01-13 23:19:41 UTC
BuzzyBeagle wrote:

I suggest [...] Mining in an untanked Mackinaw.


/Me giggles madly...URP-SPLOSION!!!

According to some recent...errrrm..experiments...some of my corpies have conducted, 2 gank-fit destroyers will make very quick work of a Mackinaw in a 0.7-rated system. Just putting that out there.

(Although I'm sure Skank--pardon: Spank--would disapprove. All the better, say I!)

Ni.

Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#34 - 2012-01-14 11:59:33 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:


And just what the Hell is your problem with small-gangers, anyway?

I've often said that that is my favourite form of PvP, and your approval, troll, doesn't mean ******* **** to me--as for the Imicus-gank:

I wanted to watch something urp-splode.
The opportunity to make something urp-splode presented itself.
So I made it urp-splode. Full-stop, end-of.

Like any of you wouldn't have done the same thing, give me a break alreadyRoll

E: But at least I do post on my main. Does that merit your so-infinitely-desirable-to-all approval, O Sainted One? FFS...

i'm not sure why you think I have a problem with small gang PVP LOL. we are discussing solo play here. theres also nothing wrong with blowing up cyno alts, just that it was your last example of relevant pew pewvto the discussion and your condesending tone seemed rather rich considering your lack of relevance.

i do approve of posting on ones main but i'm still unsure why you are put out by what i've said.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)

Siva Surya Kshatriya
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2012-01-20 00:25:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Siva Surya Kshatriya
Bump from the dead, but I think that this is a good topic in that every solo PVP'er has felt the same way at some point or the other. Here are some basic points for trying to solo:

1) The location you roam has a lot to do with not only how many fights you'll find, but the kind of fights you'll get. I personally would recommend starting at Hevrice and setting your destination to Uplingur (or vice versa). I've gotten some excellent fights along this route, though be aware that the Molden Heath area is a bit blobbier than the Gallente space IMO.

2) The ships you fly have a huge impact on the kind of fights you get. Generally the larger the ship hull, the higher the chance that you're gonna get blobbed. You can get some awesome fights in T1 frigs and AF's.

3) Keep yourself motivated, Spank posted some good blogs. Another one I like to read is http://flight-of-dragons.blogspot.com/ by Taurean Eltanin of the Tuskers. Great material and excellent write-ups.

4) If you ever get really bored, field a ship that gets engage easily like a Stabber or Bellicose and fit it out to fight off AF's. Or, get a cruiser and keep the name of the ship as the default (i.e Siva Surya Kshatriya's Rupture) and act like a noob. You'd be surprised at how much otherwise good PVP'ers let their guard down when they think they're dealing with an nub:

http://www.the-forsaken.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2947 (no skill involved in killing a frig in a Rupture, but it's funny because he orbited me at 500m in a Slicer...)
Xylorn Hasher
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-01-20 08:35:10 UTC
I think your problem is that you don't know the area you operating in.
Time to time solo Pvp is very hard to manage because you have no idea about local lowsec residents which ends for you being killed on camps or blobs.
If you like solo in Myrm put a cloak on it and learn Cloak + MWD trick to warp off from gate camps also put a Sensor Booster II or two to boost your scan resolution and locking time downed greatly by cloak or just drop cloak on station in system where you want to hold a bit.
Don't listen ppl who tells it's lame - it isn't. Dieing to 10 man gate camp is lame then you can counter that so easly and laugh on them in the end.
Lastly move to lowsec, spent some time there, know you neighbors, who is who, who lives here and who is just a visitor. It will be a lot easier in time.
For now maybe consider smaller ships like Jaguar, Taranis, Ishkur, Rifter, Thrasher or Rupture - those are great for solo and cheap.

All my posts are made shortly after Marihuana consumption.

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