Warfare & Tactics

Hello,

After some weeks of gameplay as a "carebear" I decided to do pvp, everywhere everyone says this game is pvp based, only pvp is core to this game, you will be bored with this game if you don't do pvp and so on....

I joined FW and began to do pvp, mainly inside novices plexes in my faction owned systems.

I jumped in the plex....ships came inside....I was killed....I was podded.

Then jumped again....killed...podded...

jumped....killed...podded....

jumped...killed...kept webbed in the pod for a minute...podded....

jumped...killed....kept webbed again....podded...annoying....

jumped...killed...webbed...podded

and so on, several times for 3 days....95% of killings was not from another military but from pirates...

So It began to be annoying and I began to give a look at what ships/chars were killing me all time.

Basically I was in my 2/3 Mils frigate with my less than one mil sp char and 99.9% of time I was killed...webbed..podded by 50 mils faction frigate piloted by long time veterans pirates!

So my question and petition at the same time is:

If novice plexes are supposed to be used by novices, would not be better to be accessible to t1 frigates only?

A t1 frigate with t2 modules piloted by a veteran can be let's say 200% 300% more effective than mine?

At least I have a little chance to win or to go near a winning.

With this situation of faction frigates, the difference is so big I have almost zero chance to win a fight so I am not encouraged to go into novice plexes to learn basic pvp.

What I learned so far is only to use dscan to see who is coming and because 99.9% it's a draemiel, a navy comet or another faction ship, I need to flee out of the plex, so no pvp and no learning at all...


So please CCP developers, think about restricting novice plex to T1 frigates only, or make a even little plex ( with less LP so pirates cannot say I farm big money LP as their excuse to gank me inside the plex), or lowering LP gains from novice plex making this restriction, giving me the chance to learn basic pvp.

Hello Yang,

happy to have others opinion, having some difficulties to understand what you mean though...

p.s. I have the luck of having some isks, but I don't think a newbie considers his 2mil frigate shitfit, to have several 2 mils frigates exploded in 2 seconds by faction frigates can be painful for a total newbie finances in my opinion.

Bring friends next time. The best ship in EVE is the Friend ship.

Limiting objectives to strictly t1 ships would completely destroy a large amount of high skill level content in FW. Also, I have often seen high cost navy/pirate ships go down to t1. Best advice is to explore and look for a quieter system. Most likely out of Black Rise.

Hello Oreb,

I am asking to add a extra small plex limited to t1 frigates, not important how many LP are gained at the end of counter, even half of a novice plex can be more than enough, my idea is to give a chance of a decently fair fight for newbies, to spend weeks and weeks dying all time with almost zero chances to win a fight is something that makes new players to leave PvP, not to join and love PvP at all.

Obviously it would make pirates not so happy, I was told many of them simply like to add new kills to their list, they don't care if they kill a newbie or a veteran, they simply love to add kills to their collection,. very very easy kills are always welcomed.

people dont need an excuse to "gank" you in plexes, you just need an excuse on why you ran away

All kind of "revenge" on selfish players can be interesting, but what I'm pointing out is that having a chance to really duel with a cheap pvp ship against other kind of ships would make pvp experience for new players like me much more interesting.

How it is it seems newbies destiny is to be killed all time by veterans that don't care if you are new to the game or not, you are simply another line in their victim's roster.

It's frustrating and in my opinion making many new players to quit.

A t1 versus t1 would help new players like me to actually learn pvp even if they haven't time/chance to enter a pvp corp having teacher spending much time to teach them pvp.

Oh, someone said faction ships are t1, pity they are extremely overpowered if compared to the ships a new player can afford to fly / lose.

Ship is the issue here, in my opinion.

I was said that pirates use bling ships and they also use fleet bonuses from ships in the system, just to make it even easier.

I would be very happy if he would "probably" kill me, because it would help me to learn.

To have a t2 module fitted faction frigate with fleet bonus jumping in the novice plex and killing me in 5 seconds giving my cheap let's say 5 mils frigate no chance to win teaches me absolutely nothing.

It's only one line in the pirate kill roster, and no pvp experience at all for me.

As I wrote at the beginning I already learned how to flee, it's very easy, you stay on the corner of a plex spamming dscan setted on a short distance to see near ships, aligned to a planet at random. When you see the usual faction pirate ship you warp away.

I've learned it easily, but I don't want to farm LP like that at all. I want to learn pvp fighting with other ships, with a "decent" chance to at least have time to learn something before diying. Versus the 99% of pirate ships there is no chance like that at all.

So I really hope FW is not about only learn how to flee.

I hope it could be something about learning how to fight...