EVE General Discussion

I suppose. In the end, try we might, to account for RL persona and/or capability affecting the end result in this game, the evidence comes up short. This is why I don't bother with the "gankers are sociopaths" threads.

When I say that they may not be able to grasp certain things in the game, it's not saying they are of a certain mindset that is incapable of it. Quite the contrary. One thing we make the mistake of is this: we forget that an individual player will only give as much to a game as per their mindset towards the game itself and it NOT a reflection of their personality, intelligence, and other RL attributes.

For years I have speculated that this game can be driven by how it's advertised. Advertise the game as this dark evil place where you stab everybody in the back at every chance, that's what will happen more. For a long time Eve had this banner add that showed what appeared to be mostly PVe/industry stuff with an ISK "ticker" climbing through the whole thing, and it was around that time the game started to get inundated with the kind of player who, if you say nerfed some ISK making/related module or mechanic such that you went from say 50 million ISK in some given time period to say 49 million, they would be all over these forums wailing and gnashing their teeth. That ad campaign brought in that kind of player.

But are we attracting crazy people who will do that IRL, or to whom that is appealing?

Or are we getting gamers who, on the pretense of "I'm playing a dark and evil game of backstabbing with space ships and I want to win", come in with that mindset and carry it out but are otherwise just gaming the game?

That is the question. And I would favor the latter as an answer considering the lack of knifings and poisoned drinks during fanfest.
(or at least the lack of balls on the forehead stunts when someone passes out though I'm told it does happen)

I was once acquainted with an online community, that I as a moderator for a separate related community, used to hear about behind the scenes and much negative light. In a public gathering once, one member tried to kill another over shitpoasts. if I told you what the community was related to or extended from, and I cannot so don't ask, you would be shaking your head and wondering about living in a cave. These are not gamers but in fact people you would think you rely on to survive.


But enough talk! Let's all shoot each other! (In game I mean)

How does this help?

They are going to be killed by CONCORD when criminal, so you are just whoring on the killmail, not actually achieveing anything.

Also, just as is said to the gankers, if you want to pvp, get out of highsec and pvp without the CONCORD support. I know lowsec and nullsec are scary for you antiganker types, but it's really not that bad. Even antigankers can manage it.

Sorry, you seem to be missing correct use of terminology.

Criminal status is a 15 minute flag for committing a crime.

Outlaw is someone with low sec status.

If you want to correct people, then be correct in the first place.

So if you are talking about criminals, then you are just killboard padding and performing nothing of any value. But then, that is anti ganking anyway. A large group of failures that claim victory whoring in CONCORD kills. You guys aren't interested in saving anyone, just in clambering onto kills that are going to happen anyway.

Thxs for putting me straight, what would we do without people like you to tell me whats what . btw what is it you do ?

Thxs Pan well put, some of our guys are getting over 50 % in damage, as I said our tacklers try and pull there heavy hitters out of fleet, they are mostly low damage, waiting for other players or faction police to kill them as tacklers job is to hold, most freighter pilots do donate something but we try not to make money our goal just a means to carry on

BTW thank you to the people who sent us Ships and fittings this will be a big time saver, I believe we just got around 80 rifters given to us,need to find 80 sets of fitting now hehe, need to move them from hek to jita if anyone wants to help, I'll do a contract as standard if anyone can, mail in game not here...

Strange, I would have bet good money that Goons are actually the primary TARGET of every wannabe ganker in Jita......

If you alpha or ECM them, they will not get a second or third shot off. Result: Less damage to the gank target, and increased chance it will survive.

Or Logi support to the ship. There are plenty of ways to mitigate the damage, it just adds to an increase in ships needed to support the effort on each side.

In HiSec, Concord reaction time is the absolute cap on the attack time. In Lo/Null Sec I think that's why they have that timer thingy they are putting on it. It's so some poor Jump Freighter pilot doesn't get bogged down in lengthy, exhausting, bump and jump fights.

It makes sense, but yeah, we're already hearing the backlash from the gank community.