EVE General Discussion

Just tested this on sisi with an Archon, three squads of Dragonfly I and a Griffin...
Jamming fighters doesn't do anything. They just keep shooting.

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You know what else is stupid is that they never once addressed us when we said that carriers had lost all their distinctiveness and are now purely inferior to supercarriers.

I just tested this. Jamming a fighter squadron cuts out the DPS of a single fighter in the squadron and prevents the whole squadron from attacking a NEW target. They can still continue attacking their existing target.

To hit a new target, such as the ship jamming them, you need to lock up the jamming ship, pull your fighter back to tube, and then launch them and hit F3 to attack the jamming ship before the jammer can lock them up.

So the main effect of jamming on fighter squadrons is to make assigning NEW targets more difficult.

It's easy to get them to attack before they are jammed. You will already have the target locked and all fighters selected, you just need to hit F3 before the jamming ships completes a lock (which takes a few seconds).

So as long as you can click a button and hit a key within 1 second, you are ok.

And the DPS drop is about 12% of a full squadron, vs 100% of a jammed ship. It's not so bad.

You can MWD them back towards you pretty fast to get of of range of the jamming ship though. Then sic them on the jammer

After dealing with ECM vs my ships, this impact looks significantly less.

In most if you get perm-jammed you can't do anything at all. If your fighter gets permajammed you have options like bring it back to lose the jam , or move it out of range, and still be able to kill the jammer.

After reading this thread it seems to me that Degnar Oskold has offered up some interesting possibilities to shake any jam and KC Kamikaze does not want to use them; preferring to not have fighteres jammed at all.

Good work Degnar for figuring out tactics to use for existing mechanics.

Well, let's use some rational thought here on the logic of existing communications...

If you always have the ability to summon them home, jammed or not, it means you have some kind of communication method with them that is invulnerable to jamming... maybe blinking lights or a laser comm... whatever.

This means the carrier could also be sending them target data over the same line.

Thus, if the fighters themselves are jammed, they should be able to switch targets and still fire on a target but their jammed local computers would likely yield less dps.

If you jam the carrier, it can't update the fighters targeting so the fighters then go off their local, weaker, sensors but get full targeting dps on a ship they can target and lock. The weaker sensors are easier to jam.

If you jam both, they get nothing.

The short of it is, jam the fighters, still get carrier data but reduced dps. Jam the carrier, full dps but cannot assist fighters with targeting so they are vulnerable to weaker jamming sources letting you jam both. At all times, the carrier can summon the fighter group back with backup optical comms and unless both carrier and fighter group are jammed, can switch and create new targets.

So, it would take two ships (or one ship with two jammers) to take out a squadrons dps ability entirely, but a single jammer can take down a squadrons dps ability some % amount relatively easily but not eliminate it or prevent targeting.

That would seem to be a better mechanic than all or nothing from a single jamming ship.

except there is not a singe ship in the game that is perma jammable so long as you fit one module to the ship