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Project Freeport Citadel

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bardghost Isu
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2016-04-25 11:26:49 UTC
Sudri Namian wrote:
Ok i might have to enquire about the stuff being lost ill try to get an answer from ccp because there are 2 different sources both posted by ccp one says that the stuff is being destroyed and the other says that it gets impounded. Thank you for bringing this to my atention.

https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/i-feel-safe-in-citadel-city/


Those depend on where the citadel is.

If its in K-space then it gets impounded

If its in a W-hole then its lost.
Jack Hayson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2016-04-25 11:31:11 UTC
Sudri Namian wrote:
Ok i might have to enquire about the stuff being lost ill try to get an answer from ccp because there are 2 different sources both posted by ccp one says that the stuff is being destroyed and the other says that it gets impounded. Thank you for bringing this to my atention.

https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/i-feel-safe-in-citadel-city/


Look at the date of the two blogs.
The original plan was to have asset recovery in w-space. For obvious reasons wormholers were not very happy about that and CCP changed it.
Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
#23 - 2016-04-25 11:33:57 UTC
Jack Hayson wrote:
Sudri Namian wrote:
Ok i might have to enquire about the stuff being lost ill try to get an answer from ccp because there are 2 different sources both posted by ccp one says that the stuff is being destroyed and the other says that it gets impounded. Thank you for bringing this to my atention.

https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/i-feel-safe-in-citadel-city/


Look at the date of the two blogs.
The original plan was to have asset recovery in w-space. For obvious reasons wormholers were not very happy about that and CCP changed it.


Still if there is more than 1 station in the wormhole at the moment of destruction stuff should be transfered there. Also a large citadel inside c4 womrhole would be a tough nut to crack .
Jack Hayson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2016-04-25 11:41:43 UTC
Sudri Namian wrote:
Still if there is more than 1 station in the wormhole at the moment of destruction stuff should be transfered there.

It does not.
"subject to the magical loot fairy rules that would normally apply for ship cargohold."
meaning half the assets drop as loot and the rest is destroyed.

It would be impossible to evict someone if the assets were just transferred to another citadel in system.
Malcolm from Marketing
Klaatu Technologies
#25 - 2016-04-25 12:47:44 UTC
So, you want a Citidel in your C4 Wormhole but you want everybody else to pay for it for you?
Seems Legit.

Also, Any Assets in a WH citidel are subject to the regular loot fairy just as they are in a Pos right now. Asset safety only applies to known space - as in everywhere but wormholes.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#26 - 2016-04-25 13:56:14 UTC
if you cant afford to buy one without begging i doubt you can defend one What?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Spacefaring Bastard
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2016-04-25 17:35:50 UTC
huh, what happened to those logs from yesterday? those were a good read. very revealing about the character of Sundri.

Even more so that he had them removed.
Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
#28 - 2016-04-25 17:38:02 UTC
Spacefaring Bastard wrote:
huh, what happened to those logs from yesterday? those were a good read. very revealing about the character of Sundri.

Even more so that he had them removed.


I did not remoove anything as i don't have the power to do so read up the whole thread and you will find out why !
Spacefaring Bastard
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2016-04-25 17:48:12 UTC
Had them removed. you whined that someone was going to tell everyone about how shifty you were in that convo.
Hans Bauer
Blue Oyster Limited
#30 - 2016-04-25 18:02:34 UTC
A Large citadel is a tough nut to crack for everyone that keeps having security concerns go on the test server place a large citadel and try to destroy it. Expecially when it its inside a wormhole. Certain individuals keep trolling this thread but then again they are all over the forum. I't wouldnt hurt you being on the topic keep or wonder why the thread gets moderated.
Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries
#31 - 2016-04-25 18:15:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Shayla Etherodyne
Spacefaring Bastard wrote:
Had them removed. you whined that someone was going to tell everyone about how shifty you were in that convo.



You know, whining about moderation don't seem very smart after you have been warned:

ISD Gallifreyan wrote:
...
Quote:

The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread.

Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel.

Even though there were multiple violations I will leave this as a Warning
Further violations will be escalated to CCP appropriately.
...
[quote]
12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category.
Ka Plaa
Doomheim
#32 - 2016-04-25 18:43:35 UTC
Hans Bauer wrote:
A Large citadel is a tough nut to crack for everyone that keeps having security concerns go on the test server place a large citadel and try to destroy it. Expecially when it its inside a wormhole. Certain individuals keep trolling this thread but then again they are all over the forum. I't wouldnt hurt you being on the topic keep or wonder why the thread gets moderated.

How many Billions are you giving?
Put your ISK where your mouth is.

"The Crowd Is Untruth" - Kierkegaard
Spacefaring Bastard
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2016-04-25 18:44:32 UTC
I haven't been warned, actually. Seeing as I didn't post any logs, I just read them for the short time before Sundri realized they made him look either incompetent in the extreme, or a scammer with poor english grammar skills who did slightly less than enough research.

I tend to have a very good memory for when people are shifty. I may forget to do basic things like eating, or to reset a spring when I put machinery back together, but I always remember people I can't trust.

And since I'm not directly posting the logs, this is well within what's allowed.
Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
#34 - 2016-04-25 18:51:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Sudri Namian
Ka Plaa wrote:
Hans Bauer wrote:
A Large citadel is a tough nut to crack for everyone that keeps having security concerns go on the test server place a large citadel and try to destroy it. Expecially when it its inside a wormhole. Certain individuals keep trolling this thread but then again they are all over the forum. I't wouldnt hurt you being on the topic keep or wonder why the thread gets moderated.

How many Billions are you giving?
Put your ISK where your mouth is.



He actually did he was the first person to donate. Please guys if you don't have constructive criticism stop just posting for the sake of posting so far i've been called all sorts of things.
This thread is starting to be less and less civilised. Asking questions and debating is 1 thing calling someone scammer , beggar and all sort of names is another. Why ? cus it has nothing to do with the topic if you don't like the idea of a fundraiser do not support it but let each person form his own opinion . Do not turn into this into a flame war just because you have nothing better to do.
Ka Plaa
Doomheim
#35 - 2016-04-25 20:54:25 UTC
Sudri Namian wrote:
just because you have nothing better to do.

Do you realise the irony of saying that to others but saying others should be nice in your thread? At least star wearing a wizard hat or something.

A fundraiser or crowdfunding a project isn't a bad idea in and of itself. Community projects have potential in EvE. However, it doesn't seem as though you maybe have considered some major issues and details about the project and how the citadel will operate after construction. So people are suspicious, sorry.

That being said, good luck with your project.


"The Crowd Is Untruth" - Kierkegaard
Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
#36 - 2016-04-25 20:59:16 UTC
Ka Plaa wrote:
Sudri Namian wrote:
just because you have nothing better to do.

Do you realise the irony of saying that to others but saying others should be nice in your thread? At least star wearing a wizard hat or something.

A fundraiser or crowdfunding a project isn't a bad idea in and of itself. Community projects have potential in EvE. However, it doesn't seem as though you maybe have considered some major issues and details about the project and how the citadel will operate after construction. So people are suspicious, sorry.

That being said, good luck with your project.




Thank you
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#37 - 2016-04-25 21:09:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
Spacefaring Bastard wrote:
I haven't been warned, actually. Seeing as I didn't post any logs, I just read them for the short time before Sundri realized they made him look either incompetent in the extreme, or a scammer with poor english grammar skills who did slightly less than enough research.

I tend to have a very good memory for when people are shifty. I may forget to do basic things like eating, or to reset a spring when I put machinery back together, but I always remember people I can't trust.

And since I'm not directly posting the logs, this is well within what's allowed.

You can still see the thread history on eve-search:

http://eve-search.com/thread/478495-1

This OP has no clue. I don't operate in J-Space, but I'll add 3 Billion for the group that kills this Citadel.

ISK will be sent to a third party to hold in advance. Updated details will be posted once that is done.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
#38 - 2016-04-25 21:28:12 UTC
More alts of the same guys great :)
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#39 - 2016-04-25 21:29:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
Sudri Namian wrote:
More alts of the same guys great :)

Nope.

Just someone who thinks begging for ISK to build a Citadel is asking for trouble; and I'm happy to deliver where I can.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
#40 - 2016-04-25 21:31:04 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Sudri Namian wrote:
More alts of the same guys great :)

Nope.

Just someone who thinks begging to build a Citadel is asking for trouble; and I'm happy to deliver where I can.


However keep in mind that posting links containing chatlogs is not allowed on this forum neither is puting bounties to sabotage someone's project i do however encourage you to read what you are actually linking.