Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hi all.

After releasing some information regarding this during Fanfest, I'd like to get your feedback on two new Storyline exploration modules.

I propose to release two new mid slot 'hacking' modules, that can open both Data and Relic containers.
This would free up a mid slot for all explorers who wish to use these modules, rather then having to fit both the Data and Relic Analyzers separately.
However as these modules would combine two separate 'functions' together, they will be less effective generally than their individual, specialised counterparts.

The BPC's for these modules would drop from all Data exploration sites.
The ‘Ligature’ Integrated Analyzer BPC would drop from the lower end Info Shard and Com Tower containers, while the ‘Zeugma’ Integrated Analyzer BPC would drop from the higher end Mainframe and Databank containers.


Now on to the stats.

‘Ligature’ Integrated Analyzer

Volume 5 m3
Activation Cost 20 GJ
Optimal Range 5000 m
Activation Time / Duration 10 seconds
Virus Coherence 20
Virus Strength 20
Virus Utility Element Slots 1
Tech Level 1
CPU usage 25


‘Zeugma’ Integrated Analyzer

Volume 5 m3
Activation Cost 20 GJ
Optimal Range 6000 m
Activation Time / Duration 10 seconds
Virus Coherence 40
Virus Strength 30
Virus Utility Element Slots 1
Tech Level 2
CPU usage 30



To manufacture these modules, you will require the following:


‘Ligature’ Integrated Analyzer

Relic Analyzer I x1
Data Analyzer I x1
High-Tech Data Chip x500
High-Tech Manufacturing Tools x500
High-Tech Scanner x500


‘Zeugma’ Integrated Analyzer

Relic Analyzer II x1
Data Analyzer II x1
High-Tech Data Chip x1000
High-Tech Manufacturing Tools x1000
High-Tech Scanner x1000

You will also require both of the same Data and Relic skills that the Tech I and Tech II current analyzers use.

That's it for now, please share your thoughts, ideas and concerns.

Fly safe, (and thanks for an awesome Fanfest yet again)
CCP RedDawn

EDIT: Increased both Strengths to the same values as their Tech I and II variants.
Lower Coherence, 2 less Utility Element Slots and higher CPU requirement still remain.

While I can see the benefits of having one mod to rule them all, they look very expensive.

The idea isn't bad but I would still stick to my 2 tech 2 mods on my Astero / Stratios for the task at hand. Now if the mods would have a tad more range to warrant the price, that would be a different story.

Say 7000m for the t1 and 8000m for the t2.

I don't think this will be used a lot. The hacking minigame is already random and fatal enough (for the loot at least) that you'll want to max out your virus strength as much as possible. There's in general two kinds of explorers I've encountered so far:

1) Focusing only on relic sites for the best loot. They don't give a **** about integrated analyzers because they only do relic sites.

2) Doing both. If I can't find a good relic site at least I'll get decent loot from those 10 data sites. We usually don't need the extra mid.

The one use where I can see it as useful is for newbro explorers who need that scan strength more than virus strength, so they can free up a mid and put an array in it. I don't see this happening much if the storyline modules remain expensive.

Uh, it doesn't take up twice the space? It's taking up half the space, as you only need to have one fitted? That's the entire point?

‘Zeugma’ Integrated Analyzer

- virus strength of a T1 analyzer
- coherence between T1 and T2
- only 2 instead of 3 utility slots
- 5 more CPU compared to a single T2, 25 less than both modules

Hmmm... most exploration ships -- including some Interceptors -- have no issue fitting both analyzers.

I can't help feeling that these modules try to fill a niche that in reality isn't there.

With the reduced coherence/strength compared to a T2 module this new module is pretty much out of question for Interceptors. Those exploration hulls who don't have enough midslots for both 'traditional' analyzers have enough cargo for a mobile depot.

Personally I don't see the little bit of convenience that the Zeugma adds being worth the downsides. Less CPU is nice but exploration ships generally aren't very tight on CPU to begin with unless fitted with Expanded Probe Launchers.

Edited for clarity:

How about
- single scriptable module
- coherence and strength on par with existing T2 modules
- 2 utility slots
- between 60 or 70 CPU requirement to not be OP
end edit


‘Ligature’ Integrated Analyzer is so weak compared to a T1 I see no use whatsoever.

Makes no sense to make it scripted. Scripts make sense in a fight were you have to wait for the cycle to finish then click through the script change. Out of combat, when there's no pressure, you might as well let it do both things well without scripts, but I'm strongly against that. Specialized analyzers give us choice, and eve is fun because of all the choices you have to make.

I applaud the idea, but I do not see it being used to much. Ignoring the price, if I am going exploring, I am going to max out on the virus strength. As an explorer, the loss of a mid is acceptable because I am not setup primarily for combat. Yes, you can fight, but you fit the ship for a job.

Now, if these had the same virus strength, then I would actually use it, but if I am going to be flying an astero or cov ops around, I would lose the mid for max effeciency.

Considering every explorer I know carries a mobile depot in their hold to change things around, I don't see why not... warping off, deploying a depot, changing your modules, scooping and warping back, is not fun gameplay... so a single module would work fine.

How about adding scripts to this new module to make them as efficient as specialised modules?

The idea is interesting, but the modules are way too expensive for the low stats, which make them useless compared to the specialized modules.

Why add a new module that combines both but is worse when you can just remove both modules and add 1 new module that is as good as the former specialized ones? Wasn't Fozzie happy about the removal of the module clutter that the old ECCM modules were, and now you add new clutter?