Out of Pod Experience

Much as I hate to admit, what ESA said is right.

As a game, EVE is always going to have a fluid population. New players who will a.) stick it out or b.) try it and leave.
Old players will a.) Play until they burn out or b.) drop from the game.

Change, and content, are what is going to do the most to keep the servers running. I've certainly not been happy with all the changes in the past couple of years. Dailies really don't make me want to "woohoo" either. Ultimately, CCP will need to make decisions that will keep the game running. If that means adopting more "themepark" ideas, then so be it. Again, not so happy about that, but I understand.

The one redeeming thing is that Rise announced during the game balance panel that they would review and remove if necessary.



late edit: (yes it is poor form, but) VENDO SNIPE!!

Heya Uriel o/

I've got a co-worker at my PT job that has been hearing my tales and thinking about joining up.

I'm fairly certain that the new Citadel trailer will pique his interest. ;)

Ria, you are not being "forced" to do anything.

You are given an incentive. Should you choose to use that incentive, you will get a twinkie.

Personally, I've never been a min/maxer in the game. I couldn't honestly care less about going and shooting a rat for SP's.

Late edit: Being forced would be "log in and kill a rat OR YOU WILL LOOSE SP's"

I'm very much a new player. There are players that have been here for a decade longer than me. So, ESA, in his purported veterancy is straight up arguing against a new player telling me what I want. No.

I missed what Rise said during the game balance panel, but what he posted in the thread was that they would monitor PARTICIPATION. Participation in a feature that is very punishing not to take part in. It's absolutely indefensible.

You may be a newer player, Ria, but you have enough SP's to be competitive in pvp.

And it's not punishing, by not participating, you are opting NOT to get the twinkie.

Not getting the bonus is a penalty.

Failure to take advantage of an offer to receive extra stuff is NOT a penalty.

Ok, so let's suppose that I have to ship out for the summer this year, as I had last year. I won't be able to log in, so I won't be getting that 10,000 SP every day. When I come back, I would've missed anywhere between 700,000 and 1,000,000 SP, depending on how long I have to stay out. My account is subbed till October, so what's the reason that I'm missing those skillpoints if it's not a penalty?



I come from a competetive background. It's the only thinking process that doesn't kill you.

This thing is designed to burn out people. No joke. I thought that EVE is going to be my sunset pasture, precisely because it didn't have things like this.

I can see both sides of the argument here. CCP wants people with active subscriptions to actually log on and play the game. This is acceptable, but I don't think skillpoints are the right reward. Ria is right in that everyone advancing skills at the same rate was one of the core tenets of EVE and something that made it different from other MMOs.

If you're unable to log in, and everyone around you is getting skillpoints that you're not getting, it IS a penalty from a relative standpoint. And it really will accumulate to a significant amount of skillpoints over a long period of time. Some players may not care, and that's fine, but personally, I'm vehemently opposed to the idea.