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Caps in incursions?
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Super Veliz
Seventeenth Battalion
Honorable Third Party
#1 - 2016-04-18 18:14:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Super Veliz
Read it in reddit yesterday.. true? false? maybe? HS? LS?

update: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6443936#post6443936

i guess it is true
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#2 - 2016-04-18 19:49:44 UTC
Super Veliz wrote:
Read it in reddit yesterday.. true? false? maybe? HS? LS?

update: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6443936#post6443936

i guess it is true


I'm eagerly waiting for the day when someone is dumb enough to take a cap into a low sec incursion site Big smile
Oxide Ammar
#3 - 2016-04-19 07:14:31 UTC
Super Veliz wrote:
Read it in reddit yesterday.. true? false? maybe? HS? LS?

update: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6443936#post6443936

i guess it is true


They aren't allowed into HS yet, they should but for different reasons.

Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#4 - 2016-04-20 13:28:28 UTC
Oxide Ammar wrote:
Super Veliz wrote:
Read it in reddit yesterday.. true? false? maybe? HS? LS?

update: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6443936#post6443936

i guess it is true


They aren't allowed into HS yet, they should but for different reasons.


They shouldnt be allowed in highsec, ever

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#5 - 2016-04-20 13:34:28 UTC
Hundreds of arty Nags sieged off the Jita gate in Perimeter.

It'd be a hell of a boost to the capital production market I'll give you that.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#6 - 2016-04-20 14:00:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Anize Oramara wrote:
Hundreds of arty Nags sieged off the Jita gate in Perimeter.

It'd be a hell of a boost to the capital production market I'll give you that.


yeah, ganking the officer shitfit lvl 4 mission nyx owned by the 3 day old player who bought a ton of skill injectors, pl would become wardeccers, everyone would turn to npc corps, mercs station camping in slowcats

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Oxide Ammar
#7 - 2016-04-21 11:07:07 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Oxide Ammar wrote:
Super Veliz wrote:
Read it in reddit yesterday.. true? false? maybe? HS? LS?

update: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6443936#post6443936

i guess it is true


They aren't allowed into HS yet, they should but for different reasons.


They shouldnt be allowed in highsec, ever


Good luck bashing XL citadel in 5 BCs.

Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#8 - 2016-04-21 12:21:00 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Anize Oramara wrote:
Hundreds of arty Nags sieged off the Jita gate in Perimeter.

It'd be a hell of a boost to the capital production market I'll give you that.


yeah, ganking the officer shitfit lvl 4 mission nyx owned by the 3 day old player who bought a ton of skill injectors, pl would become wardeccers, everyone would turn to npc corps, mercs station camping in slowcats

You know, if you put it that way it sounds kinda... interesting.

Twisted

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#9 - 2016-04-21 12:42:00 UTC
Oxide Ammar wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Oxide Ammar wrote:
Super Veliz wrote:
Read it in reddit yesterday.. true? false? maybe? HS? LS?

update: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6443936#post6443936

i guess it is true


They aren't allowed into HS yet, they should but for different reasons.


They shouldnt be allowed in highsec, ever


Good luck bashing XL citadel in 5 BCs.


xl citadels use entrosis mechanics?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining
#10 - 2016-04-21 12:58:49 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Oxide Ammar wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Oxide Ammar wrote:
Super Veliz wrote:
Read it in reddit yesterday.. true? false? maybe? HS? LS?

update: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6443936#post6443936

i guess it is true


They aren't allowed into HS yet, they should but for different reasons.


They shouldnt be allowed in highsec, ever


Good luck bashing XL citadel in 5 BCs.


xl citadels use entrosis mechanics?


Don't think they ever said that in any of the dev blogs? Did you read that somewhere or..?
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#11 - 2016-04-21 13:02:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
yes...in the dev blog....

"Medium, Large and X-Large structures will use a version of the Sovereignty capture mechanic, which means they will only be attacked through the use of the Entosis module."

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Oxide Ammar
#12 - 2016-04-22 08:08:15 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
yes...in the dev blog....

"Medium, Large and X-Large structures will use a version of the Sovereignty capture mechanic, which means they will only be attacked through the use of the Entosis module."


Yea and here is a proof of frig fleet entosis an XL citadel

Stop chewing the same gum that other vet are using it, Caps were useless before into HS, they are slow as **** they can't do anything better than BS till way down in hull sizes. But when you introduce a big ass structures that you need an armada to take it down ...then you need Caps in HS or the whole HS becomes XL or die.

Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#13 - 2016-04-22 10:36:58 UTC
From the looks of the new feature video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFH4tAh16Ek

Astrahaus: Medium, Built in Empire, Wormhole, Nullsec.

Fortizar: Large, no indication of who what or where we can puttem.

Keepstar: XL, Nullsec

Need more details. Someone link something for me to read about this at work please.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining
#14 - 2016-04-22 11:58:12 UTC
They said you can put any size citadel anywhere.

Didn't they say they were going to implement a damage cap so that bigger fleets aren't always better when taking down structures? What was that in reference to?

And which dev blog was that in Lan?
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#15 - 2016-04-22 12:09:36 UTC
Oxide Ammar wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
yes...in the dev blog....

"Medium, Large and X-Large structures will use a version of the Sovereignty capture mechanic, which means they will only be attacked through the use of the Entosis module."


Yea and here is a proof of frig fleet entosis an XL citadel

Stop chewing the same gum that other vet are using it, Caps were useless before into HS, they are slow as **** they can't do anything better than BS till way down in hull sizes. But when you introduce a big ass structures that you need an armada to take it down ...then you need Caps in HS or the whole HS becomes XL or die.


so what you sayin then man, the dev blog is wrong?


Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#16 - 2016-04-22 12:10:33 UTC
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
They said you can put any size citadel anywhere.

Didn't they say they were going to implement a damage cap so that bigger fleets aren't always better when taking down structures? What was that in reference to?

And which dev blog was that in Lan?


https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/shake-my-citadel/

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#17 - 2016-04-22 21:56:31 UTC
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
They said you can put any size citadel anywhere.



Who said that? Can you link the article or topic please? I cant find it anywhere....

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#18 - 2016-04-23 09:06:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Zhilia Mann
StonerPhReaK wrote:
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
They said you can put any size citadel anywhere.



Who said that? Can you link the article or topic please? I cant find it anywhere....


They can be anchored anywhere 1000km from anything else except shattered wormholes, static DED complexes, and Thera.
Amanda Chan
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2016-04-23 09:55:45 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
They said you can put any size citadel anywhere.

Didn't they say they were going to implement a damage cap so that bigger fleets aren't always better when taking down structures? What was that in reference to?

And which dev blog was that in Lan?


https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/shake-my-citadel/


I see your dev blog post and raise you my own. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/citadels-sieges-and-you-v2/

Mmmmm. Just imagine chewing all that hp in sub caps.Roll
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#20 - 2016-04-23 11:38:54 UTC
Amanda Chan wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
They said you can put any size citadel anywhere.

Didn't they say they were going to implement a damage cap so that bigger fleets aren't always better when taking down structures? What was that in reference to?

And which dev blog was that in Lan?


https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/shake-my-citadel/


I see your dev blog post and raise you my own. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/citadels-sieges-and-you-v2/

Mmmmm. Just imagine chewing all that hp in sub caps.Roll


well i had a read of that and what i get from it is, it doesnt matter how many ships you bring each structure has a maximum amount of dps that can be applied to it.

"The way damage mitigation is going to work is pretty simple:

We set a maximum limit on a structure, say, 4000 DPS
Every time damage is applied to that structure, we check all cumulated damage done before that within a specific time frame – let’s say 30 seconds
If cumulated damage on the structure would exceed 30*4,000 = 120,000 then any further incoming damage is reduced, or negated to preserve that amount over the last 30 seconds
Mitigation is counted after shield, armor or hull resistances are applied to incoming damage"

So 75-225 battleships to take down an xl citadel

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
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