Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'd totally go for that; and while we're at it, can we also get a small delay showing up in local to ease the transition from gatecloak to regular cloak, as well as offing small gangs the chance to get a DScan off before "LOKAL SPAIK!!" gives them away?

Under such circumstances I wouldn't even mind a cloakscanner. Because at least you have the element of surprise and 'invulnerability' effectively becomes 'invisibility'.

Just a few points:

-Wormholers work together to secure their space by closing wormholes, scouting the chain and sitting as a lookout on open connections to keep the fleet safe, while nullbears complain that their 100% accurate 24/7 up FREE Intel-network has one tiny chance of not being 100% accurate.

-While a wormhole-system can be made relatively secure, you cannot stop new connections from opening up.

"More risk in nullsec" ? Give me a break. Highsec is more dangerous than your precious bearing-system. All this "problem" you have is entitlement and whining.

So linking a name that shows up in a channel without any kind of action from your part is something you consider to be a big thing? You are given Intel for free and you are complaining it's not perfect.

Grow a pair

Yeah but he can't kill you becouse he's AFK )))

just wanted to point out that:

-skill injectors made this a lot worse as a single multiboxer can fabricate new chars in a day and camp half a dozen systems

-as you(CCP) said, all aspects of this topic have been chewed to the bone. this means the ball is in your court to either make a change or release a final statement

I think this is a good balance.

But I hope you have to have access to the Observatory Array or something similar to be able to scan down cloakers, and that it takes near-perfect skills to scan a well skilled covops frig.

I can't believe nothing has been done about this issue.

I thought the idea of fozzie sov was to reward those that are active in the space, how can that be true when to drop an ADM before an assault all you have to do is create / log on a veritable army of alts and sit them cloaked up camping every system, preventing activity.

These stealth bombers, stratios, cov ops, covert recons and virtually anything that can hold a cloaking device of some description sit in system with a cyno on their ship, training their accounts preventing the actual game play.

Is this what eve is to become, a game with a sov system that is ignored and useless because every null system worth having has a cloaky camper in it? All that person has to do is decloak every so often and hot drop someone and the activity in that system dries up for days to weeks faster than a nun's nasty when she hears the lords name taken in vain.

Fix the damned system already.

*Give citadels a mod, (with a huge cycle time like 10 mins) the ability to scan down cloaky ships as long as there are three of them in range of the target.

* Make cloaks gather a charge over time so that after a certain amount of time you slowly become more easily Probable. Decloaking dissipates that charge.

*Make it so that cloaks use a fuel of some sort.

Just do something, otherwise this is going to be a game where all alliances live in low sec, and half the universe stands empty because no-one can hold null for any great length of time.

You've got a good system with fozzie sov, im enjoying it. But let me enjoy it, let me play fozzie sov the way it's ment to be played.

so far the neverending argument of cloakers is "herp derp: my cloak doesn't hurt you so why nerf it?"

but seriously, the philosophy of ganking pve players is that they have a false sense of safety and put their billion isk ships out in space without escort. and the "duty" of gankers is to remind them that EVE is not safe*

*unless you want to go AFK for days in a system others spent trillions of isk and weeks of time to gain control over.

If you are in nullsec, wouldn't you be in a standing defense fleet that can come take down the gankers anyway?

The issue is bigger than AFK camping for blops. That's a fairly small part of why people use cloaks in game, and you want a massive nerf to all cloaking to change one small subset of the game.

I like the idea (in null only) that you don't have local, unless you have a certain type of deployable structure that adds it. That structure grants local as well as the ability to scan for cloaked ships after a certain period of time, but it can also be knocked offline as well. Leave HS/LS/WHs alone.

Or you could...you know change your behavior to nullify the effect of a single guy cloaked and AFK in your system.

Here, let me help you:

You get 5 buddies together. Fit up your ratting ishtars with a more PvP oriented tank. You could even put on remote reps, remote cap transfer, and/or neuts in the high slots.

Start burning down sanctums and havens in short order because with 6 ishtars shooting the rats it will go damn fast. If that guy in a cloak comes back to his key board and he doesn't have a cyno and people he can ping he will not engage you.

If he does have guys he can ping, he may still not engage you unless he can bring enough people to wipe out your gang. And ishtars with heavy drones can put out a surprising amount of DPS. So they'll either need a LOT of bombers or ships that can tank the DPS.

You worked together to get the system, but then everyone goes full ret*rd and does stuff solo and then complain about people taking advantage of such silly behavior.