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Rep in WoW has a max value. Once you reach it, you never need to do those dailies again.

On the other hand, the maximum SP value in EVE is rather hard to reach right now. It's not a tangible goal for people yet.

You see, there's a maximum training speed of 2700 sp/hour. The daily represents 454 additional sp/hour. That's just above having a set of +5 implants plugged in addition to whatever you currently have. And if you don't log in today, you don't get that. It is a straight up penalty.

In the same vein of thoughts, yes, not doing PI means you're out some ISK. It's called an opportunity cost.

As many already wrote, the title of the thread is "Daily Opportunities coming soon"...
I think there is sadly no way to convince CCP to discard this idea, so let's make the best out of it.

My first proposal is to not have the 22h cooldown, but to use the downtime to reset the daily timer.
This would extend the time one can be logged out without missing a daily to roughly 46h.

Second: Don't have only skillpoints as reward.
Have a character bound repeating queue of rewards, like on the first day you get 1000 Concord LP, on the second day you get 5 AURUM and on the third day you get 5000 skillpoints.
This queue only advances if a reward is claimed.
I don't think those numbers are high enought to actually devaluing the currencies in question, if they do they can be revised downwards.

Regarding this, you have to be aware of what you want.
Either you want people to log in and actualy play your game or you want them just to log in to boost some statistical values.

If you want them to actualy play your game you should increase the requirement to claim the daily reward.
Something like killing 50 NPC, it should be roughly equal to 1-2 missions / cosmic anormalys.
Add other requirements like mining a set amount of m³ of ore or ice or doing some Project Discovery samples.

If you just want boost some statistical values give this stuff right away as soon the character is loged in...
Because frankly wanting someone to log in and "to be able to collect this reward during a lunch break or a 10 minute period where your kids are in timeout" is nothing else.

again...you can do any activity in eve to make isk to buy injectors, the extra 4mil sp a year is only available if you shoot a rat, if you dont shoot the rat you are losing 4mil sp a year.

if someone who doesn't shoot a rat buys the same amount of injectors as the person who shoots rats for a year then the person who isnt shooting a rat is being penalised by 4mil sp a year even though he logs in every day like the ratter does. surely this cant be too hard for you to understand?

You see, there's a maximum training speed of 2700 sp/hour. The daily represents 454 additional sp/hour. That's just above having a set of +5 implants plugged in addition to whatever you currently have. And if you don't log in today, you don't get that. It is a straight up penalty.

Your comment is funny coming from someone who can't understand what a GAME is and the basic notion of enjoying one's life

It is relevant : new player don't have the ISK to buy injectors... but as they just joined the game, they are more likely to follow the way of the daily opportunity. Older players usually have steady ISK income and can buy injectors... but as their way of playing is well established, they are likely to be pi***d by the "kill a rat" thing...

A couple of other things.

If someone wants to do Serpentis missions in Fountain doing these Daily Opportunities will hurt their standings if they kill the npc's tied to Fountain namely Serpentis npcs. You basically hurt your own chances of doing pve if you do this pve.

And on a more [very] minor note, say someone has maxed out their sp with skill injectors the value of extra sp is fairly low.



Buy plex, sell plex for isk. Buy injectors. Not hard to understand is it? Hell some people even get isk GIVEN to them for free.



Poor little n00bs [no offence to REAL new players], why can't we get everything for free, while shafting the players who have been here for years before it was even a twinkle in thine little eye. We don't really care about eve, we just want a theme park where the devs hold your hand and we say 'I do' like in Hello Kitty Onlineland. We don't really care about the sandbox, we would rather someone set our goals for us because we don't have the grey matter to give a damn. Shall I go on?

you know you can buy injectors with rl cash right? (well plex but still rl cash involved) plenty of new players are happy to throw rl cash at games and ive seen a few new players on the forums praise the injectors because they can use rl cash, because thats exactly what that mechanic was designed to do.

Its not relavent anymore how you dicuss about the Daily Opportunities. They are live on SISI. They will probably come with the Citadel Expansion.

A big thank you to CCP Rise to change Eve slowly to a Casual Game.

SKill points or isk - it is a sandbox so go gather your toys and do as you wish. If you feel that your toys are being taken away by CCP I totally agree you should be upset. But this notion that you're being penalized is absurd and holds no basis for an argument because nothing is forcing you to take part in Opportunities. And As a veteran player such as yourself you know 10k skill points is very helpful for a new player but Being butt hurt for roughly 4million sp during the entire year (that is of course you do them each and every day) is extremely sophomoric.

Cheers!