EVE General Discussion

All of that sounds good and sure, all doable. While a newbie corp is forced to do all of the above to try and stay "safer" when more established corps can just look up a corps kills mails and quite easily blanket wardec them all for peanuts with little risk to themselves and the potential for huge reward, I still call that very, very imbalanced.

Look, I get that EVE is hard, but, its also a game and a business. The game wants to attract and retain new players who then grow and add to the content for other new players. If CCP simply wants to maintain the current player base, not grow as much and just feed the trolls who have played for years and want to prey on new players and their inability to defend themselves effectively or go through your Top 10 list of things you need to do to not be preyed upon, well, we will just wait and see how long it takes for EVE to be nothing but PVP veterans with nobody to blow up but eachother and then what? Will they leave because they will then have to follow your Top 10 List as well just to survive?

I dunno, paint the pig whatever color you want. The War dec mechanic needs fixed or removed. That's really all there is to it.

What are you complaining about? I started my own PVE corp when I was new, 10-12 guys. Ran missions. Experimented my first PVP loss in Nulsec trying to belt rat. I fully expected to lose a ship eventually, just not as fast, heh.

I came back in Hisec. Did more PVE. Never been wardecced. If I had, I would have gone back ratting in Nulsec. I got can flipped. I fought back suspects. I died. I killed some.

Join a Nulsec corp. First Wardec I lost an Industrial in Hisec. 2nd loss was a PVP BS, going after that Privateer guy. Then I got my first kills flying a Rupture or Jaguar.

After that BS loss, I never lost anything else to a Wardec becasue I adapted: I scouted. I made Watchlists. I checked Killboards. Identified neutral scouts.

Then I started to do Hisec Wardecs. Then Nulsec PVP and PVE. Then Hisec PVE. Then more Hisec PVP. Now Lowsec PVP, and still do Hisec PVE on an alt. Which has been perma-decced for a month now. Big deal. Mercs can't even find me anymore since CCP removed Watchlists, because that would be a massive waste of time. Just get out of the trade pipes and trade hubs, its EASY. It take some effort. And attention.

Ah, yeah, the Watchlist removal: By removing that, CCP practically forced Hisec wardeccers to blanket war eveything that moves just to get content, as it removed most of target hunting. You want to complain, blame CCP for making it worse for everyone: Wardeccers by removing a big part of their content and not-so-smart PVE corps that paint a target on themselves in trade hubs and trade pipes.

As an 11 year eve player your opinion as a 3 month old player is just below that of a maggot.

Go back to WoW maybe?

Aside from a few exceptions wardecs in highsec have mostly been a griefing tool and heck, much similar is suicide ganking and outside of the odd FW-gatecamp that's about the only PvP interaction you get in highsec.

I don't see how any of these offer quality gameplay or help to keep newer players in the game.

It's just bad game design if you ask me. However, highsec seems quite profitable still and perhaps even more so since I last took a break from EVE. Either there needs to be risk or the attractiveness of highsec should be adjusted, what I'm saying however is that wardec griefing and suicide ganking are bad ways to achieve the level of risk that's necessary.

Suicide ganking is way more profitable than wardeccing. In fact, blanket wardec cost a fortune, for (most of the time) little reward. You do get the odd faction fit ship. But Loot Fairy is a *****.

There are plenty of ways to defend against a War Dec. You need to learn how to do it though.

First, is the Deccing corp in the same system as you? If so, you'll either need to kiss and make up or leave and find a new system without them if you don't want to fight them.

You can always Dock up and stay docked for a week. This is the WORST way to deal with a War Dec but it's still effective, consider this option absolute last, I'm only putting it up here because some corps just jump to it first... I have no idea why.

If you are hauling, haul in small chunks in cheap ships... OR fly with a combat escort, if you can't put a decent one together, hire mercs if the cargo is important.

If mining, you'll either need escort or to do it covertly via wormholes, out of system, etc. and if out of system, trickle it back in.

You can also FIGHT back in some really nasty ways. Buy and build a fast ship with a cloak. Hang out in THEIR systems with your Cloak on, spies annoy the heck out of people and make them nervous. If you have enough corp buddies or some hired mercs, have your spy ship call in when they are doing some activity of their own and rain on their parade with your own forces. There are two things about War Dec corps that are generally true:

1. They are in it for the money and if you cost them more money than they can get off you, they won't Dec you again.

2. Most are pretty cowardly. They don't want real PvP fights. They want their combat ships against your industrials. You start raining combat ships on them, they will back off and dock up themselves. They are doing PvE as well, but instead of against Asteroids or NPC's, they like picking on players. You are nothing more than an Asteroid to them. It's just PvE by another method.

Do not fear War Decs. If you are doing your mining/hauling right in the first place, you are not someone they are going to spend big ISK on in the first place.

This chestnut is so old, it comes with a complimentary incontinence pad and ear trumpet.

Ive seen you post about 100 times over the past few months and not once have you said anything worth a moments notice. I cant tell if you're just some sad, lonely nerd raging prick that hangs around EVE because its the only place you feel somewhat accepted or if its the only place you can be a prick and not get the **** kicked out of you. Either way, you're a loser. You apparently don't have the means of making a comment without some form of personal insult. Only losers with false egos do that.

If you cant comment intelligently without throwing around insults, then expect what you put out to come back to you.

Sure, if you wanna be a jackass and toss insults and get butt hurt because someone opened your truth and you wanna war dec me to show me how much I hurt your feewings, go ahead. lol

Or, stop being a forum warrior putting everyone down.