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TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet
Everyone But Me Is A Bot
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#41 - 2016-03-17 10:09:55 UTC
Let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that anti-ganking doesn't know what it's doing. It knows EXACTLY what its doing. Anti-ganking is undertaking a systematic effort to fail non-stop daily, to try and make Highsec more like the rest of New Eden.
Rad Cer
Prievoz
#42 - 2016-03-17 10:50:17 UTC
1. Ganking in most cases is not PVP. In fact gankers are twenty seconds miners. Freighter is like asteroid (with floating value), guns are mining lasers and Concord is referee with a stopwatch. Success depends only on the amount of used dps. Thanks to game mechanics typical gankers does not need brains, just a quick finger.

If I am wrong, then Jayson Kusion must be men with more than 10 head. If one men can simultaneously control one scout (or bumper), one FC and 10 gankers ships with success, what a skiller is then ganker managing one simple catalyst in ganker fleet?

2. Thanks to game mechanics (again) is ganking very safe method of obtaining ISK with stable costs and catalysts are like mining crystal. Game mechanics alows loot the wreck without any consequence - just one noob ship and ship with fleet hangar.

3. "Antigankers fails every day hard". Yes, if the goal is save one specific freighter. But what gankers do not say, are costs arising from AG activity. And no one knows, how many freightersho were not attacked while AG was active in system. If AG is in ganked systems , they must use more bumpers, more gank ships and more time and they can kill less freighters. The results are higher expenses and less profit.

If really "Antigankers fails every day hard" fail, then there is no reason to give them attention.

4. Killing gankers ships is too slow method for neutralizing ganker ship and therofore ineffective. But for most antigankers is in the first place not save freighter, but to improve his killboard. If AG really want, then ganking would stop.

5. If AG successfully stop gankers, what I will do then... ? Mining, farming ... ?

Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#43 - 2016-03-17 11:34:37 UTC
Let me stop you right here
Rad Cer wrote:
1. Ganking in most cases is not PVP.

EVE means Everyone versus Everyone
PvP means Player versus Player
And I'm pretty sure Ganking involves two (2) opposite parties: the ganker and the gank
Therefore Ganking equals PvP

EVE is about PvP
Deal with it or go back to MLP Online or Hello Kitty Online

Ty :)

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Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#44 - 2016-03-17 13:02:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Mobadder Thworst
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Let me stop you right here
Rad Cer wrote:
1. Ganking in most cases is not PVP.

EVE means Everyone versus Everyone
PvP means Player versus Player
And I'm pretty sure Ganking involves two (2) opposite parties: the ganker and the gank
Therefore Ganking equals PvP

EVE is about PvP
Deal with it or go back to MLP Online or Hello Kitty Online

Ty :)


I have not tried hell kitty online. Do you recommend?

People tell me all the time I should be playing it, I must try it.
Mo
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#45 - 2016-03-17 13:13:12 UTC
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Let me stop you right here
Rad Cer wrote:
1. Ganking in most cases is not PVP.

EVE means Everyone versus Everyone
PvP means Player versus Player
And I'm pretty sure Ganking involves two (2) opposite parties: the ganker and the gank
Therefore Ganking equals PvP

EVE is about PvP
Deal with it or go back to MLP Online or Hello Kitty Online

Ty :)


I have not tried hell kitty online. Do you recommend?

People tell me all the time I should be playing it, I must try it.
Mo

I don't know tbh
From what I heard there are unicorns that shoot skittles

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

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Fiddly Pop
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#46 - 2016-03-17 13:36:10 UTC
Rad Cer wrote:
... But for most antigankers is in the first place not save freighter, but to improve his killboard.


At least he's honest, but i go back to my earlier comment:

Fiddly Pop wrote:
Who wants CONCORD as top damage on all their kill mails? I would think that would make a person feel kind of impotent.
Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#47 - 2016-03-17 14:17:10 UTC
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet wrote:
Let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that anti-ganking doesn't know what it's doing. It knows EXACTLY what its doing. Anti-ganking is undertaking a systematic effort to fail non-stop daily, to try and make Highsec more like the rest of New Eden.


Funny I see ganks failing more and more, 2 very nice jump freighters got saved last night in the short time i was on, great intell got people to the targets and we did our stuff, one j/freighter pilot i had a chat to was very happy, fail we do but we learn and by learning we fail less

,I think I'm starting to get in your way , using that silly injector story to try and give me a black mark, very predictable

“Knowing where the trap is-- that's the first step in evading it.”

very fitting quote for eve don't you think.

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#48 - 2016-03-17 14:27:04 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Let me stop you right here
Rad Cer wrote:
1. Ganking in most cases is not PVP.

EVE means Everyone versus Everyone
PvP means Player versus Player
And I'm pretty sure Ganking involves two (2) opposite parties: the ganker and the gank
Therefore Ganking equals PvP

EVE is about PvP
Deal with it or go back to MLP Online or Hello Kitty Online

Ty :)


I have not tried hell kitty online. Do you recommend?

People tell me all the time I should be playing it, I must try it.
Mo

I don't know tbh
From what I heard there are unicorns that shoot skittles



Downloading immediately.

How did I not know about this.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#49 - 2016-03-17 14:35:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Dom Arkaral
Ozzie Udan wrote:
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet wrote:
Let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that anti-ganking doesn't know what it's doing. It knows EXACTLY what its doing. Anti-ganking is undertaking a systematic effort to fail non-stop daily, to try and make Highsec more like the rest of New Eden.


Funny I see ganks failing more and more, 2 very nice jump freighters got saved last night in the short time i was on, great intell got people to the targets and we did our stuff, one j/freighter pilot i had a chat to was very happy, fail we do but we learn and by learning we fail less

,I think I'm starting to get in your way , using that silly injector story to try and give me a black mark, very predictable

“Knowing where the trap is-- that's the first step in evading it.”

very fitting quote for eve don't you think.

And what about the orca Annah killed 2 nights ago?
Edit: this one
Where was AG?

EVE is a trap, and you're stuck in it ;)

@Mo, add me
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Ozzie Udan
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Caldari State
#50 - 2016-04-18 09:38:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ozzie Udan
Well, not made any post for some time and as this is a AG propaganda thread , i thought i'd post my new poster

http://imgur.com/NoTCgXp


was going to do some propaganda about more code permaban, but the whole event is sick , and who cares what reason he said what he did (I was reading minerbumping) , code seems support and actively encourage these types of acts .

I must add not all code and gankers are bad apples, on one of the events, i believe that got the bans handed out, a code member said this line of chat should stop, well done to decent and honest people who play this game no matter which side they play in game.


ps anti-gank doing well and stopping more and more ganks and a small group on sunday morning worked on the subject of my poster and give her a hard time untill she ran from her favorite sys Big smile well done to that small team.

More news on my Anti- something plans very soon, not sure the name anti-gank will fit for much longer, with the obvious down slide of code and goons coming, still plenty of targets to fight.. I did read anti-asshat some where, made me lol but not fitting to all, RollRoll

(ps some guy thought it was a real magazine and asked to buy a copy hehe , so to others its just a bit of mock up fun)

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2016-04-18 15:26:25 UTC
Ozzie Udan wrote:



was going to do some propaganda about more code permaban, but the whole event is sick , and who cares what reason he said what he did (I was reading minerbumping) , the fact was they said it, code seems support and actively encourage these types of acts .

I must add not all code and gankers are bad apples, on one of the events, i believe that got the bans handed out, a code member said this line of chat should stop, well done to decent and honest people who play this game no matter which side they play in game.


Hi Ozzie,

You've resurfaced!

You know that any form of discussion about b..s here will attract the attention of an ISD, and may well lead to ...trouble?
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#52 - 2016-04-18 16:30:51 UTC
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:
Ozzie Udan wrote:



was going to do some propaganda about more code permaban, but the whole event is sick , and who cares what reason he said what he did (I was reading minerbumping) , the fact was they said it, code seems support and actively encourage these types of acts .

I must add not all code and gankers are bad apples, on one of the events, i believe that got the bans handed out, a code member said this line of chat should stop, well done to decent and honest people who play this game no matter which side they play in game.


Hi Ozzie,

You've resurfaced!

You know that any form of discussion about b..s here will attract the attention of an ISD, and may well lead to ...trouble?

Quote:
11. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.

This one?

And yeah, don't talk about stuff you don't really know Oz

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

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Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#53 - 2016-04-18 20:14:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ozzie Udan
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:
Ozzie Udan wrote:



was going to do some propaganda about more code permaban, but the whole event is sick , and who cares what reason he said what he did (I was reading minerbumping) , the fact was they said it, code seems support and actively encourage these types of acts .

I must add not all code and gankers are bad apples, on one of the events, i believe that got the bans handed out, a code member said this line of chat should stop, well done to decent and honest people who play this game no matter which side they play in game.


Hi Ozzie,

You've resurfaced!

You know that any form of discussion about b..s here will attract the attention of an ISD, and may well lead to ...trouble?

Quote:
11. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.

This one?

And yeah, don't talk about stuff you don't really know Oz


I only know about an evening in Uedama that I experienced, permabans are a fact and happen, I'm not Discussion the ban , just discussion the fact it happened, code also have more banned players that any other organisation that i know of , which is my 2nd point .

Do you read anything people write, or just make stuff up and yes I know stuff Dom Blink, also wanted to point out not all code members are bad apples. So no anti-code art for now, it was merc art .......

Btw nice to see you about.

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#54 - 2016-04-18 20:18:51 UTC
Hey Ozzie, you're not also this guy by any chance?


I think my heart might just break a little if you say 'yes' :<

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2016-04-18 20:21:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Ozzie Udan
Bumblefck wrote:
Hey Ozzie, you're not also this guy by any chance?


I think my heart might just break a little if you say 'yes' :<



No its not me

Thank god ccp can check, I got the name Udan from the eve family name gen on start up, seems it comes up a lot.

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#56 - 2016-04-19 06:16:51 UTC
Btw if anyone wants some propaganda art doing, with a crime & punishment angle, drop me a line

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2016-04-19 06:46:03 UTC
Ozzie Udan wrote:

...code permaban, but the whole event is sick , and who cares what reason he said what he did... , the fact was they said it...


You reference a permaban in the EVE Online Forums. You offer your reaction to the alleged reason for the ban. You state what you claim to be a 'fact' about the behaviour of the subject of the ban.

Ozzie Udan wrote:

code seems support and actively encourage these types of acts .


You attempt, without a shred of evidence, to smear an entire EVE Online Alliance, indirectly accusing CCP hf of allowing such alleged behaviour to continue unchecked - which you then immediately (and hilariously) contradict, by adding...

Ozzie Udan wrote:
I must add not all code and gankers are bad apples,.


You then proceed further to discuss the permaban, by 'reporting' that...

Ozzie Udan wrote:
on one of the events, i believe that got the bans handed out, a code member said this line of chat should stop,


If that isn't discussing a permaban and the subject of a permaban, then I don't know what is. But the thread is still open, so I guess it's ok, or an ISD hasn't seen it, or it's (yet) another example of rules being selectively applied where matters New Order are concerned.

I understand your sentiments Ozzie, I just happen to think this otherwise entertaining thread has been hijacked inappropriately.

Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#58 - 2016-04-19 06:59:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Ozzie Udan
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:
Ozzie Udan wrote:

...code permaban, but the whole event is sick , and who cares what reason he said what he did... , the fact was they said it...


You reference a permaban in the EVE Online Forums. You offer your reaction to the alleged reason for the ban. You state what you claim to be a 'fact' about the behaviour of the subject of the ban.

Ozzie Udan wrote:

code seems support and actively encourage these types of acts .


You attempt, without a shred of evidence, to smear an entire EVE Online Alliance, indirectly accusing CCP hf of allowing such alleged behaviour to continue unchecked - which you then immediately (and hilariously) contradict, by adding...

Ozzie Udan wrote:
I must add not all code and gankers are bad apples,.


You then proceed further to discuss the permaban, by 'reporting' that...

Ozzie Udan wrote:
on one of the events, i believe that got the bans handed out, a code member said this line of chat should stop,


If that isn't discussing a permaban and the subject of a permaban, then I don't know what is. But the thread is still open, so I guess it's ok, or an ISD hasn't seen it, or it's (yet) another example of rules being selectively applied where matters New Order are concerned.

I understand your sentiments Ozzie, I just happen to think this otherwise entertaining thread has been hijacked inappropriately.




The threads about propaganda art, was asked to do code permeban art but felt this one would be more fitting, btw do you like it, fits in with the c&p theme I think, non c&p stuff will be posted in my eve

Maybe change title to c&p propaganda art, so all can post here,

Ps I hate redit so not going to post there

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Drax Kado
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#59 - 2016-04-19 07:09:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Drax Kado
Great poster Ozzie, funny how wonder women looks hot as that picture but your edit make subject look like a tranny, could be her skin colour, saying that subject does look like a freak, so never going to be hot, good job, did you see the typo, sorry to point that out

Thxs for the tips on hunting code it's sure been fun
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#60 - 2016-04-19 12:00:28 UTC
Quote:
11. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.

Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including support ticket responses and emails) received from any member of CCP staff.


you may open a new thread, but drop the commentary on the alleged bans.

ISD Max Trix

Lieutenant

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

I do not respond to EVE mails about forum moderation.

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