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Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#141 - 2016-04-15 21:42:01 UTC
Damn, that was a lot of replies in rapid succession.

I think I'm going to just watch this one play out.

*rummages through belongings searching for protein delicacies*

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#142 - 2016-04-15 21:44:15 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Mercy is for the weak.



Excellent. So we will no longer hear you weep over those Caldari POWs?


You're seem stuck in a feedback loop of your own making Commander. I was once blindly loyal to a cause and a government that on the outside, purported to be the epitome of honor, duty, loyalty. Many of the things I did in the name of that government were a far cry from what my definition of honor, duty and loyalty was. But it was for "the greater good." It was for glory. It was for service.

Even after i'd been given an objective, outside view, I still made the decision to support that government because honor demanded it. And again and again, I watched that government fail to maintain the standards of its public face. And then I simply...left. And it has continued just fine without me.

I would invite you to take a similar, objective view of what the State is, compared to what you think the State is, or what it should be. Then ask yourself if you're getting a fair return on all you've sacrificed. Does the State really need you? Or do you need the State so desperately that you would be salve to an ideal, a paper fantasy of honor, duty and loyalty?





Ah, a man speaking the kind of wisdom that can only be acquired through personal experience.

I tip my hat to you, sir.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#143 - 2016-04-15 21:47:35 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Ahh... Circular logic at its finest... I think she means being overly merciful is for the weak, though what can I say I could be wrong.

Roll


I never said anything about being overly merciful. I said mercy had a place.

Too much mercy is folly. Mercy without justice and justice without mercy are both extremes to be avoided.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#144 - 2016-04-15 21:55:19 UTC
Jason Galente wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Ahh... Circular logic at its finest... I think she means being overly merciful is for the weak, though what can I say I could be wrong.

Roll


I never said anything about being overly merciful. I said mercy had a place.

Too much mercy is folly. Mercy without justice and justice without mercy are both extremes to be avoided.

I was more so referring to what I understand if Ms Kim's logic on it. What you said I couldn't agree more, well said.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#145 - 2016-04-16 01:05:25 UTC
Kim-baka anytime you want to "show me the gun" you are welcome to try. I'm not hard to find. I don't run from fights and certainly not from the likes of you. Just leave your Falcon flying "associates" docked, ok?

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#146 - 2016-04-16 01:28:07 UTC
Jason Galente wrote:
Damn, that was a lot of replies in rapid succession.

I think I'm going to just watch this one play out.

*rummages through belongings searching for protein delicacies*

*passes a bag of popcorn*

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#147 - 2016-04-16 02:03:27 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:

You know nothing about us, Diana Kim. Nothing beyond you own narrow view of what we are "supposed" to be in your eyes.

That is true.... I have very narrow view on gallenteans. I hate them a lot, but I was taught that gallenteans are fascists and they need to be exterminated. Today, my view is only getting more narrow as people try to challenge my opinion with facts. Today I formulate more biased opinions on gallenteans, I see what a terribly small fraction of you are doing and blame the core values of your society instead of the corruption of the individuals. I want to believe that your values are the issue and strip away everything that makes you who you are so that I can feel like a superior, more complete, being. I was taught that you were fascists 200 years ago. And even gallenteans, admit that there were mistakes made. I will use that acknowledgement to further fuel my hate and skew facts. You may have improved over time, but I will never admit that.

I mistakenly believe that I know way more about your people than you will ever know about mine.

Unlike you gallenteans, who are fed by a variety of different, and often contradictory information sources that force you to actively seek the truth, I base my opinions on whatever the state tells me to believe so that I might peruse my objective free from any obligation to think for myself or be embroiled in moral problems that might cause independent thought.


Fixed that for you.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#148 - 2016-04-16 07:55:17 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Kim-baka

It is not for someone lacking mental development like you to call others baka. Especially Caldari Officers, graduated one of best Caldari educational facilities. Do you even understand how ridiculously stupid you look by saying things like that?..

I guess you don't. Well, sucks to be you, then.

Anabella Rella wrote:
anytime you want to "show me the gun" you are welcome to try. I'm not hard to find. I don't run from fights and certainly not from the likes of you. Just leave your Falcon flying "associates" docked, ok?

Last time I did you ran from the grid like a rat running from a sinking ship.
Do you want to tell us is that because you imagined Falcons all around you or what?

The fear has huge eyes indeed.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#149 - 2016-04-16 08:02:00 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
My Reply Edited By Gallente Troll wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:

You know nothing about us, Diana Kim. Nothing beyond you own narrow view of what we are "supposed" to be in your eyes.

That is true.... I have very narrow view on gallenteans. I hate them a lot, but I was taught that gallenteans are fascists and they need to be exterminated. Today, my view is only getting more narrow as people try to challenge my opinion with facts. Today I formulate more biased opinions on gallenteans, I see what a terribly small fraction of you are doing and blame the core values of your society instead of the corruption of the individuals. I want to believe that your values are the issue and strip away everything that makes you who you are so that I can feel like a superior, more complete, being. I was taught that you were fascists 200 years ago. And even gallenteans, admit that there were mistakes made. I will use that acknowledgement to further fuel my hate and skew facts. You may have improved over time, but I will never admit that.

I mistakenly believe that I know way more about your people than you will ever know about mine.

Unlike you gallenteans, who are fed by a variety of different, and often contradictory information sources that force you to actively seek the truth, I base my opinions on whatever the state tells me to believe so that I might peruse my objective free from any obligation to think for myself or be embroiled in moral problems that might cause independent thought.


Fixed that for you.


Correct quote was:

Diana Kim wrote:

That was true... eight years ago. I had very narrow view on gallenteans. We all 'hated' them a bit, but we also were taught, that gallenteans "were fascists 200 years ago, now they got better". Today my view isn't narrow anymore. Today I see and study gallenteans, I see what you are doing and how. I see your false lies and what you hide behind facade of your pseudo-humanity. You were fascists 200 years ago, even gallenteans, at least one who know history, admit they were ultra-nationalists and fascists. But you haven't changed at all.

I know way more about your people than you will ever learn about our.

Moreover, unlike you, gallenteans, who are fed by your propaganda, I base my opinions on facts.


If that's how you imagine what I say, Osyn, I think I understand how your brainwashed head works. You replace words of others with what you want to be, simply ignoring what others say or show you. This is abnormal, Osyn. And one can't really participate in conversation if the opponent behaves so stupidly like you.

For now I can only recommend you, Osyn, to get to a mental health clinic, request immediate help and stop wasting time of IGS readers with your delusions.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#150 - 2016-04-16 21:48:55 UTC
I'll stop if you will. Time and again the people of the IGS have requested that you stop your near constant ranting on these fourms, and you never do. You show up where you're not wanted raving about the Gallente and Minmatar where such a thing has no place, you refuse to acknowledge the ideas and perspectives of anyone who doesn't conform to your line of thinking. And your most common response to half the people on this forum is half witted, disrespectful insults that rob every thread they touch of meaning. So when you learn some manners, I'll start taking you seriously. Until then, **** you, I'm going to keep doing this.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#151 - 2016-04-16 23:59:51 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
I'll stop if you will. Time and again the people of the IGS have requested that you stop your near constant ranting on these fourms, and you never do. You show up where you're not wanted raving about the Gallente and Minmatar where such a thing has no place, you refuse to acknowledge the ideas and perspectives of anyone who doesn't conform to your line of thinking. And your most common response to half the people on this forum is half witted, disrespectful insults that rob every thread they touch of meaning. So when you learn some manners, I'll start taking you seriously. Until then, **** you, I'm going to keep doing this.

Well, if anyone here leaves half-witted comments, thats you, Osyn. Every time you answer, you tell lies and absurd ranting. Don't tell me to learn manners, gallentean freak, and don't project your problems on me.

Though if you want to make a clown out of yourself - go ahead. Anyone with a brain larger than a rat will see that you are lying about me.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#152 - 2016-04-17 00:10:39 UTC
If both Claudia and I stop would you?
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#153 - 2016-04-17 00:59:05 UTC
Unlike you two I don't do anything wrong.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#154 - 2016-04-17 01:02:28 UTC
since we both only do wrong, wouldn't you be doing the rest of the igs a favor by getting us to stop posting? You could do it, you could BE THE HERO of the IGS! You could show the Caldari Supremacy in shutting up two filthy savages by your selfless sacrifice!
Nick Bete
Highsec Haulers Inc.
#155 - 2016-04-17 01:11:12 UTC
Kimmy might lighten up some if she was getting it on a regular basis, just saying.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#156 - 2016-04-17 01:20:20 UTC
Vess, don't put responsibility for your wrongdoings on me.

I do what I have to do, and let it be what happens. I take responsibility for my words, and you should take for yours.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#157 - 2016-04-17 01:39:49 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Vess, don't put responsibility for your wrongdoings on me.

I do what I have to do, and let it be what happens. I take responsibility for my words, and you should take for yours.

Responsibility? Nope.... Opportunity absolutely! Your selflessness could end the ramblings of two of the igs's major ****posters. You could be a hero, an example of selflessness for your own to follow.
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#158 - 2016-04-17 06:30:45 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
If both Claudia and I stop would you?

Shoulda woulda coulda, lets be realistic here you and Claudia will never stop with your comments.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#159 - 2016-04-17 06:53:10 UTC
Ashlar Vellum wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
If both Claudia and I stop would you?

Shoulda woulda coulda, lets be realistic here you and Claudia will never stop with your comments.

I won't speak for Claudia, but ya I would if it ended the racist remarks of her....
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#160 - 2016-04-17 18:40:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jason Galente
Diana Kim wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:
Kim-baka

It is not for someone lacking mental development like you to call others baka. Especially Caldari Officers,graduated one of best Caldari educational facilities. Do you even understand how ridiculously stupid you look by saying things like that?..


I don't want to get too into the realm of personal insults.. but there is a distinction between learning and schooling. And wisdom, for that matter.

New Eden's schooling facilities have far too much propaganda for me to take them as some authority on learning. They're more an indicator of skill specialization than anything.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost