EVE General Discussion

[Nonsense post-Happy Hour post deleted. Luckily, I see that my Svipul is still in the hangar and intact].

the eula clause you cite discusses acquiring in-game assets through gameplay

convincing a bunch of players to click "give money" isn't gameplay

For all this hurf blurf in the forum, you could have actually spent the time undocked fighting.

No need to QQ all over the place because IWI paid lowsec scrubs to kick you out of your home.

Can't beat em? Whinge about em instead. How the mighty (or maybe never were) have dipped to some very low points.

You are the EVE forum equivalent of the guy on counterstrike who sees someone playing much, much better than anyone else so they cry that the dude HAS to be cheating/hacking.

Tl;dr: Mimimimimimimimimimi waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah mimimimimimimimimimi

How's the evac going?

*you think he's cheating and literally everyone else disagrees with you.

Without third party applications EVE would stop functioning as a game. How is your own gambling service going to counter IWI? I assume you're working on one, since you don't like IWI. Either put your money where your mouth is and work the counter, or stop talking. k buddy?

I't not condoned by everyone, it's condoned by *gasp* people benefiting from it. There are even people who up until this war have been anit-IWI that are suddenly fine with it. Undoubtedly when goons are gone and IWI targets a group they are friendly with it's suddenly be bad again. And yes, you are right, if IWI didn't start this war, someone else who isn't using a third party application to gain a massive advantage would have done, and that's fine. I have no problem with this war existing or with it being funded by a multi-trillionaire, but that funding should come from fair gameplay, not from using third party applications.

If by "literally everyone else" you mean "a small group of vocal posters, most of who are goon biased" then sure.

Sure, but if everyone were allowed to use game breaking applications, it wouldn't work out well. This is why CCP allow some applications and features (like voice comms, messaging apps, etc) but disallow others (bots, broadcasting, etc).

How does it help the situation to build more applications that give a massive advantage to isk acquisition? All that does is break the game even more for normal players. I used to play a game called Diaspora, and they didn't do anything about botters. So more people botted to counteract the bots. The next thing you know it's rare to encounter a player and the game is pretty much over and they shut it all down.

And mate, I'll talk as much as I want to. You getting all moody and telling me to be quiet because you can't think of a decent counterpoint isn't going to make me stop.

He'd just continue whining and ranting in another thread.

Yeah, this is stupid.

If you genuinely believe any large groups in this game could even exist without external organisation I have no idea what to tell you. No one is staying logged in 23 hours a day to try to work out when and where they are needed. Without that, a group using external means would steamroll them by being able to bring to bear forces that utterly overwhelm the "currently logged on" crew from the other side.
It's such a non-starter it's asinine to even think it. But then this is your posting so.

The only reason you're able to say things like this and not realise they're utterly absurd is because you're mad about IWI and this is fair comment in your mind.

However this thread should have highlighted by now this thought is limited almost exclusively to your head.

By the way I can't reply for the next 813hours, as I am going to go fly around and manage POSes in-game using only ingame means. Then I will manually fly to every region and compare local prices.

Hopefully I will get there, I can't work out if my ship will align fast enough to be uncatchable as I just threw random parts onto a random hull and didn't use a fitting tool.


By the way this is a really, really silly notion.


Citation needed. Your personal interpretation of the EULA is not law. Also, no one agrees with you. Even people being targeted right now by IWI.

Your interpretation is completely wrong, and would require the term "by any means".
All IWI's money comes from people giving ISK to him in game.

I am at a loss as to how you can't understand the wording of the EULA. I'm also at a loss as to why you don't understand that CCP have ruled sites interacting with Eve in this way as OK.

"There’s a rich history of programs that reward players for their participation in games of chance and skill, and as long as they are above board we’re good with them." -- CCP Falcon

If your argument is one of scale, Somer made as much as IWI does on an on-going basis. So it's still a non-argument.

So you are literally saying, with a straight face, that you think IWI is a 'bigger thing' than basically every organisation currently in the game.

Like you completely accept that the game as we know it wouldn't even exist without third party tools, but that IWI is still a bigger factor.
Have I got this right.

Also this is another of your strawman arguments.


Dude. Come oooon. It's not 'trolling' to point out that you literally call the same thing both a fact, and an "opinion" all in the same post.
You do it constantly, swinging between one and the other when it suits the reply to the cherry-picked quote you have chosen to reply to.

Do you even know you're doing it?
Do you even read your posts through?