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Corvus Nengchakoff
Drifters Union
#1 - 2012-01-12 12:36:02 UTC
hi, sorry my english is very bad.
when we can see this game for linux? ubuntu?
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#2 - 2012-01-12 12:41:02 UTC
When you install wine?

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Nestara Aldent
Citimatics
#3 - 2012-01-12 13:07:06 UTC
Wine isn't a solution to the problem. There are graphic glitches under Wine and generally abysmal performance in linux with Radeon cards. Wine is a workaround which happens to work.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-01-12 14:04:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Zim
And linux is a pretty small market compared to the other markets, and I seem to remember reports of even the mac client sucking ass through a straw.

I wouldn't hold my breath for this if I were you.

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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#5 - 2012-01-12 15:53:16 UTC
They did support Linux for a long time then dropped it in 2009

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-01-12 16:17:21 UTC
Yep. And that's why I wouldn't hold my breath, because they have had support, and they have decided to drop that support.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Ninevite
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-01-12 17:53:01 UTC
Run Windows in a virtual machine
Devilprada
Industriel Might
#8 - 2012-01-12 18:59:44 UTC
To be honest the wine response was the only one i could think of for someone useing linux that would work on the long term. There might be more addons for wine so you could get eve to work wonderful inside of it.
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#9 - 2012-01-12 19:06:51 UTC
Nestara Aldent wrote:
Wine isn't a solution to the problem. There are graphic glitches under Wine and generally abysmal performance in linux with Radeon cards. Wine is a workaround which happens to work.


So that's ATI not the Wine guys. I have Eve on my Ubuntu 11.10 box with a E6600, 3GB RAM and 8800GTS 512MB runs perfectly. AA is a no no but otherwise max settings.

Just gotta know Linux really.

If you have any issues check this section out,

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=274

Sure one of the peeps in there will have an answer.
Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#10 - 2012-01-12 22:31:54 UTC
Nestara Aldent wrote:
Wine isn't a solution to the problem. There are graphic glitches under Wine and generally abysmal performance in linux with Radeon cards. Wine is a workaround which happens to work.


I was Crossover Games (A WINE wrap-around), and after some tweaking, I got my Radeon working just fine. The main issue seems to be the EVE client itself, which tends to freeze in some areas.

I've reinstalled Windows (didn't have the patience to keep fiddling) but WINE/Crossover is a workable solution, at least for Debian Squeeze.

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-01-12 22:32:48 UTC
ATI has a reputation for suckass drivers. Hope that helps.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#12 - 2012-01-12 23:11:23 UTC
Devilprada wrote:
There might be more addons for wine so you could get eve to work wonderful inside of it.

I'm not sure if this still works, but it's worth a go: http://www.dedoimedo.com/games/wine-directx.html

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Nestara Aldent
Citimatics
#13 - 2012-01-13 08:06:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Nestara Aldent
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:
Nestara Aldent wrote:
Wine isn't a solution to the problem. There are graphic glitches under Wine and generally abysmal performance in linux with Radeon cards. Wine is a workaround which happens to work.


So that's ATI not the Wine guys. I have Eve on my Ubuntu 11.10 box with a E6600, 3GB RAM and 8800GTS 512MB runs perfectly. AA is a no no but otherwise max settings.

Just gotta know Linux really.

If you have any issues check this section out,

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=274

Sure one of the peeps in there will have an answer.


I ran it on linux as well but FPS is generally abysmal with Radeon FOSS driver, and that's not the AMD problem, because that FOSS driver is only supported Radeon driver on linux and official driver (because AMD ppl work on it), unlike nVidia which have their own blob. And what about graphics glitches in the game, like in the CQ?

Whether we'll see linux client is another matter, but running windows client on an emulation layer Wine provides isn't native client
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#14 - 2012-01-13 09:51:14 UTC
Ninevite wrote:
Run Windows in a virtual machine

Would That be better than whine?
Or do we need crackers too?

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Corvus Nengchakoff
Drifters Union
#15 - 2012-01-13 09:56:53 UTC
i run eve on wine, but it hmm it not nice, i want true real client for linux, and i know that eve programmed on python. so why gamemakers cant compile fol linux deb packages or other?


Aethlyn
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-01-13 10:16:44 UTC
Honestly, I'd just suggest you dedicate a small part of a HDD for Windows 7 (formatted with NTFS), obtain a legit version and install it there (not like it's still as expensive as older versions). This would most likely solve the issues (if you're having any; still cheaper than a new graphics card). I can understand people wanting to stay within their known environment instead of switching to play a game (doing it myself for cross platform programming), but it should still be much smoother than using any emulation layer. But to be honest, I haven't tried playing EVE under VirtualBox yet. The guest system's performance seems to be rather good, but I'm still no fan of such approaches. Especially considering the huge hard disks that are available these days.

Corvus: It's not just about starting the compiler on a different platform. If they offer it, they have to support it too. And compared to Windows there are just too many different flavors of Unix available (this is where the openess literally backfires). For windows, I compile a program and it will run on any available version (excluding very old versions of Windows and given it's a 32 bit binary). On Unix/Linux based systems this is a lot harder to achieve. Sure, it can be done, e.g. providing debs or rpms, but you'll still need like x different versions or editions.

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