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Do capital neuts have undocumented reduced effectiveness on ships with signature radius below 8000 m? If not, what their signature radius attribute means? And if yes, it'll mean people will still fit heavy neuts to get rid of stuff like HICs.

I mean there's nothing in the module description that implies what the purpose of new signature radius attribute is. Not sure if someone explained it in forum posts previously though, but I haven't read every forum post ever.

Because it's a new stat that wasn't associated with this type of module, and why is there no signature radius factor for heavy and medium neuts as well? Doesn't seem only incomprehensive but inconsistent as well.

Looks like you missed the T1 locust when you changed the sizes

also i like how the minm/amarr are getting better range


but why do T2 supiriority fighters have less tank when they proc the evasive maneuvers than the t1?

Because those are also pretty much useless on unbonused ships you would be better off using logistics for that.

Nothing is stopping you they are just trying to make it non viable

and the saga about the sad Caldari continues..

○ We have still no shortcuts (keyboard hotkeys) for launching and recalling fighters? Please use the same commands like for drones (launch, recall, engage), since there are no ships that have fighters and drones at the same time, so there will be no conflicts anyway.

○ Still no damage estimation for fighters in the fitting screen. "Drone DPS" says zero.

○ Fighters with enabled MWD still having problems when trying to land in the hangar bay. They sometimes stay outside next to the carrier until their mwd cycle has ended, then you need to recall them again to force them to land.

○ Reload time for the light fighters missile attack is way too long. You lose more damage during the recall-reload-reengage period from not shooting with the primary attack, then the secondary attack brings you in bonus damage.

○ Fighter squads still die like flies once tackled from multiple webs. Their buffer is too weak to survive even the way back to the hangar bay.

○ When you recall fighters, they keep shooting their target, prolonging your aggression timer! They should immediately stop shooting when recalled, like drones.

○ Stacking Penalty für Fighter Support Units is an incredibly bad idea, given the small boni each one gives. The increasing effect is barely noticable when using more than one or two of them, and that for a capital module in a very expensive high-slot? Either increase their effect A LOT or remove the stacking penalty.

What good is that? They are out of their missile range after 3 seconds anyway and hit for 0 damage, but still prolonging your timer?

As Lugh Crow-Slave mentioned it's a lot easier to stop your fighters from shooting than to keep them shooting if they stop when you don't want them to. For that reason I have to disagree with your idea to stop shooting when recalling them.

Stacking penalties on FSUs are nasty, but the way stacking penalties work I don't think they can remove the penalties for one type of module. They could make them stack separately from Drone Navigation Computers just like Damage Controls are separate from normal tank modules, but I don't think the code would support multiple modules of the same type not stacking if they affect stacking-penalized attributes. Speaking of which, I'm 99% sure their shield bonuses are not stacking-penalized, so they still increase fighter suvivability exponentially as you add more.

Good points though and I agree with everything except not shooting while recalling.

The Cap escalation in C5 sites do not seem to work properly.

At warpin there are 3 Upgraded Avenger Battleships in addition to the first wave. While they are a bit tougher than the normal sleeper battleships, they are no real danger to any capital. Their DPS and energy neutralizing power is quite low, compared to the capital escalations on TQ. The only nasty thing about them is the fact that they seem to have unlimited tracking or something similar, because they eat fighters in seconds.

At the end a "Transmission Relay" decloaks and if you attack that, a Drifter Battleship spawns, sometimes an Apollo Tyrannos, sometimes an Artemis Tyrannos, seems to be random. But that Battleship just stands there with 0m/s and does nothing while you fire at the Transmission Relay. The relay has quite some hitpoints, so it takes a while to bring it down. Anyway, the Drifter just sits there and waits, it doesn't even attack the fighters.

Once the relay dies, there is a container with some Antikythera Elements and some Sleeper Loot parts (worth ~5 million ISK), but it takes around 15 minutes to kill it with a single carrier, probably not worth the kill, even if you have a capital group on field (sharing nothing is even less -_-)

When you begin to shoot the Drifter, it will orbit (1000m/s) and attack you, but the damage output is perfectly tankable for a solo carrier. It also has quite some hitpoints, but it warps off after a few minutes. My carrier never comes close to kill it but also is never in any danger while fighting him solo.

To be honest, the current capital escalation on TQ is by far more challenging and rewarding at the same time. The additional spawns damage output and neut pressure should be quite a bit higher. Rewards probably too, else there is little reason to bring capitals at all. For a group of capitals, the current ecalation feels quite weak.