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Booster producers- where are they?

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Oserik Illard
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2016-04-11 23:52:24 UTC
I am just trying to discern what is going on with the booster market. I'm a long-time player who's back for either the third, or maybe fourth time now. I started playing seriously in January of 2004. It took me until 2012 to try making and smuggling boosters, and I found it to be pretty enjoyable-- if a bit of a pain to do solo.

So, now that I've come back again, I thought I would get back into it. Only this time I wouldn't do it alone, I'd join a booster production corporation! Except almost all of the ones that I have attempted to contact seem to be inactive or on life-support. I've gotten some very generous offers from people running industrial or more generalist corporations to come produce under their roof, but I am really looking for a specialist organization.

So my question is this: What is the deal? I realize that demand for these products tends to be pretty low, but I figured there would be at least one group of people out trying to do it. Does everyone just make their own? I see buy orders on the market, and some of them are decently priced, so somebody must be using them.

I'm just a little baffled that there doesn't seem to be any advertising or visible (corporate) branding. I do realize that you can run an operation with just one or two low/mid SP characters, and that it's probably not really smart to produce freighters full of them because people just don't use that many, but what gives?

I still have a couple irons in the fire in terms of employment, but it's honestly getting to the point where I'm just going to start my own operation. I have all of the infrastructure already: tower+modules, fuel, gas, BPCs, reactions, etc. I recognize that this will not make me rich (quickly), but I do know how to turn a profit with it and it's pretty fun.
pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#2 - 2016-04-12 05:19:49 UTC
I've noticed a decline in the booster gas market as of recent(certain gas has dropped over 10%).

I don't have any contacts, but I may have some leads. Hit me up in game.
Lord Ra
Sicarius.
#3 - 2016-04-12 08:07:37 UTC
Truth is nobody wants to share this market it can be the most tedious but lucrative isk you can earn if done from start to end correctly but tbh its not somthing you see people advertising eiher so you might find it hard to find such a group, best of luck though.
Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
#4 - 2016-04-12 09:45:46 UTC
@Oserik Illard
have you tried contacting "Es and Whizz"?
AFAIK these guys are the biggest corp, specialized in drug manufacturing and selling.
Good luck.
Francis Raven
GeoCorp.
The Initiative.
#5 - 2016-04-12 12:06:07 UTC
Coreli Corporation in-game, are they still around and doing boosters?

http://corelicorp.net/

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Oserik Illard
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2016-04-12 15:41:48 UTC
Thank you for the replies everyone. I have tried to contact someone in Es and Whizz, as well as another group in Hedonistic Imperative, but neither seems to be active. Coreli appears to be active, and I have applied there. They do have a product list and it appears that they are making boosters, but I would guess with all the hullabaloo lately they may be doing more pvp.
Duo Roman
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#7 - 2016-04-12 15:58:09 UTC
To contact "Ess and Whizz", join channel "Narcotics". They are pretty active.
Oserik Illard
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-04-12 17:52:26 UTC
Duo Roman wrote:
To contact "Ess and Whizz", join channel "Narcotics". They are pretty active.


I'll try that when I get home from work, I assumed that channel was for sales because that's what the available information (e.g., corp description) says. The person they have listed for recruitment hasn't replied to a mail I sent them about a week ago so I figured they were inactive since the other booster producing corp in their alliance is also inactive.
Francis Raven
GeoCorp.
The Initiative.
#9 - 2016-04-13 11:51:18 UTC
If you look at Coreli, they have minimum combat requirements as well.
That could be either good or bad depending on which end of the stick you are.

Best of luck with your search.

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Duo Roman
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#10 - 2016-04-13 12:30:09 UTC
Oserik Illard wrote:

I'll try that when I get home from work, I assumed that channel was for sales because that's what the available information (e.g., corp description) says. The person they have listed for recruitment hasn't replied to a mail I sent them about a week ago so I figured they were inactive since the other booster producing corp in their alliance is also inactive.


Yes, that is the sales channel, but the sales reps may be able to point you to one or more contacts.
Cassandra Masami
Silnare
#11 - 2016-04-15 20:16:59 UTC
The new drifter based boosters may be responsible for some of the decline:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6362686

I haven't looked into them much, but there is some overlap between them and the traditional combat boosters.

Oserik Illard
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-04-15 20:36:41 UTC
Assuming they don't terminate me for incompetence I have found a home with Coreli, thanks for those who replied.

@Cassandra - I had that thought initially, and I'm not sure the drifter boosters are a significant factor in the low demand for boosters; but they probably do play a part. I have not been able to discern how to obtain them outside of cashing in points for that mini-game, and that method seems to be about as time-efficient as producing improved/strong boosters on a single account (not very efficient at all). Perhaps there is a much faster way to get them, but I haven't done enough digging to figure it out.

As for low demand generally, I think it's a problem of perception. Cost, legality/transport, benefits, risk of side effects; these are all things that keep people away from boosters. I am considering conducting some market research on the topic, although stats and this sort of thing isn't really my forte.

I think you could make a lot of ISK if you ran a proper market research/consulting service. I never hear about people conducting polls or crunching numbers to determine what/where/when they should be selling stuff. I'm sure there are plenty of folks who do their own math in-house, but I've never heard of people doing it as a service. Then again, I've been away since 2013 so I may have missed a thing or two.
Cassandra Masami
Silnare
#13 - 2016-04-16 00:30:25 UTC
Oserik Illard wrote:
@Cassandra - I had that thought initially, and I'm not sure the drifter boosters are a significant factor in the low demand for boosters; but they probably do play a part. I have not been able to discern how to obtain them outside of cashing in points for that mini-game, and that method seems to be about as time-efficient as producing improved/strong boosters on a single account (not very efficient at all). Perhaps there is a much faster way to get them, but I haven't done enough digging to figure it out.

I think the only other way is by raiding the Drifter wormholes. I agree, they are very time inefficient to procure.


Oserik Illard wrote:
As for low demand generally, I think it's a problem of perception. Cost, legality/transport, benefits, risk of side effects; these are all things that keep people away from boosters. I am considering conducting some market research on the topic, although stats and this sort of thing isn't really my forte.

I think the things you noted are part of why boosters are not popular. Another could be a lack of understanding in how they work, that the penaties for using a booster are only sometimes applied through random chance. I've also always suspected boosters have low popularity because they are a specialized product within specialized styles of play (elite PvP, Wormhole C5/C6 escalations, etc.)


Oserik Illard wrote:
I think you could make a lot of ISK if you ran a proper market research/consulting service. I never hear about people conducting polls or crunching numbers to determine what/where/when they should be selling stuff. I'm sure there are plenty of folks who do their own math in-house, but I've never heard of people doing it as a service. Then again, I've been away since 2013 so I may have missed a thing or two.

I wish you luck on doing market research, that sort of thing is typically beyond me. When I made and sold boosters, the best I've managed to do is use the stats available in Dotlan, the in game map, and http://eve-marketdata.com/station.php to pick out stations and areas that already have a lot of pilot and market activity to narrow down my choices of where to sell.
pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#14 - 2016-04-16 02:41:51 UTC
Oserik Illard wrote:
Assuming they don't terminate me for incompetence I have found a home with Coreli, thanks for those who replied.

@Cassandra - I had that thought initially, and I'm not sure the drifter boosters are a significant factor in the low demand for boosters; but they probably do play a part. I have not been able to discern how to obtain them outside of cashing in points for that mini-game, and that method seems to be about as time-efficient as producing improved/strong boosters on a single account (not very efficient at all). Perhaps there is a much faster way to get them, but I haven't done enough digging to figure it out.

As for low demand generally, I think it's a problem of perception. Cost, legality/transport, benefits, risk of side effects; these are all things that keep people away from boosters. I am considering conducting some market research on the topic, although stats and this sort of thing isn't really my forte.

I think you could make a lot of ISK if you ran a proper market research/consulting service. I never hear about people conducting polls or crunching numbers to determine what/where/when they should be selling stuff. I'm sure there are plenty of folks who do their own math in-house, but I've never heard of people doing it as a service. Then again, I've been away since 2013 so I may have missed a thing or two.


I have kept checking back to see if you had just started your own Corp. I'm bummed you didn't.