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Medium Citadel Price?
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Loksher PhX
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-01-01 07:27:17 UTC
I am planning on getting a Medium Citadel once they are out and I wanted to know how much it is going to cost by today's speculations!
Also what could I do to bring the cost down for me in advance if anything?


Thank you very much!

PhX
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-01-01 07:30:05 UTC
Loksher PhX wrote:
I am planning on getting a Medium Citadel once they are out and I wanted to know how much it is going to cost by today's speculations!
Also what could I do to bring the cost down for me in advance if anything?


Thank you very much!

PhX


If you want one the day Citadel drops, you will pay through the nose. Wait until the market calms down, and the 700m estimate will likely be close to reality.

Personally, I think buying one right out of the gate is a fool's errand. If you want to pay a fair price for one, simply wait.

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Haffsol
#3 - 2016-01-01 10:38:28 UTC
DId they say where the BPO will be seeded? At least if in some far away nullsec ORE station or all over the cluster, highsec included? They'll prolly spread componets and citadels BPOs enough to make it quite an hassle to have them all on day one anyway. Also, anything on components BPO prices?
Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining
#4 - 2016-01-01 18:31:30 UTC
I'm going to guess it'll be seeded mostly in null. I believe it's supposed to be the new consortium that creates citadels so they'll probably be seeded in their null (well Ore, which get just got from Serpentis). I could of course be wrong, but that's my guess lol

I believe I've heard that it's going to use the same components as current outposts, so those are already available and (I'd assume) highly researched.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2016-01-01 19:32:37 UTC
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:community.eveonline.com+citadel+price

leads to:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/building-your-citadel-one-block-at-a-time/

Which has a lot of info on initial pricing of everything. Note that you may want to more than dock, so you'll want to fit it.
Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
#6 - 2016-01-02 09:44:13 UTC
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
I'm going to guess it'll be seeded mostly in null.

Blog says they will be seeded in high sec.

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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
#7 - 2016-01-02 09:46:19 UTC
Loksher PhX wrote:
I am planning on getting a Medium Citadel once they are out and I wanted to know how much it is going to cost by today's speculations!

blog says it should cost 600m for the hull. by the time you add rigs/modules/services probably 1-2b depending on what you choose.

If you want one on launch day be prepared to pay through the nose.

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Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#8 - 2016-01-02 10:23:19 UTC
Where are these things going to be deployable? High-sec, lo-sec, null-sec, WH space?
Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
#9 - 2016-01-02 11:04:59 UTC
Alicia Dnari wrote:
Where are these things going to be deployable? High-sec, lo-sec, null-sec, WH space?

yes

It sounds like the restrictions are the same as current POS deloyment. You can put them pretty much anywhere in HS except for a few special systems like Jita/amarr/etc.

They have not said if there would be restrictions on Large/XL in high sec. they did say some of the weapons will not work in highsec.

You can deploy the mediums with an industrial. the large/XL will need freighter (maybe large with an orca) to deploy. The WH guys aren't too pleased with this because they have to build a freighter in the WH just to deploy the citadel. The devs seem unconcerned with this restriction.

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Haffsol
#10 - 2016-01-02 11:18:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Haffsol
Alicia Dnari wrote:
Where are these things going to be deployable? High-sec, lo-sec, null-sec, WH space?

Anywhere, except XL in lower classes wholes. Probably higher classes too, as to say no XL in wspace period, I'm not sure about that since it would be like adding Dominion-like sov to wspace. As for L in wspace, I think they're allowed but you cannot haul them (they probably won't fit in the orca) so you should build them inside. Nothing in shattered holes though.

As for highsec, the limitation is more on the hubs and structure you can or cannot rig on them, for instance no AOE defenses or doomsday (ooops sorry) in highsec. As for anchoring an XL citadel in highsec I think it would be possible but prevented by darwin laws because anchoring a 70B worth asset and filling it with *glorious*shiny* stuff would be like the dumbest thing ever and granting only to perma-wardecced by almost anyone.
Kyra Lee
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-01-03 02:58:12 UTC
Haffsol wrote:
Alicia Dnari wrote:
Where are these things going to be deployable? High-sec, lo-sec, null-sec, WH space?

Anywhere, except XL in lower classes wholes. Probably higher classes too, as to say no XL in wspace period, I'm not sure about that since it would be like adding Dominion-like sov to wspace. As for L in wspace, I think they're allowed but you cannot haul them (they probably won't fit in the orca) so you should build them inside. Nothing in shattered holes though.


The stats released so far show that you would not be able to fit a Large in an Orca. It was pointed out to the devs that it was possible to build a Medium, build a freighter, build a Large, and then launch the Large from a freighter. After discussing that some the devs said that they would look into fitting a Large into an Orca, but nothing has been officially released yet.

As for putting up an XL in highsec, someone will do it and it will be a glorious article on TMC or EN24 I'm sure Big smile
Blueprint Buyer
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-01-03 16:28:05 UTC
I would like to add that CCP said they estimate the cost to be around 700m for a medium but as most industrialists will probably want to make a profit on them and with the increased NPC taxes I'd expect them to be over 700m on the market
Det Frank Drebin
Miranda Regional Technologies
#13 - 2016-03-31 07:47:20 UTC
I've plugged in the numbers they gave for materials and PI into a spreadsheet I made...with current prices in Amarr an Astrahus is over 1b without the cost of BPCs and the Fortizar is over 11B
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#14 - 2016-03-31 08:03:23 UTC
Det Frank Drebin wrote:
I've plugged in the numbers they gave for materials and PI into a spreadsheet I made...with current prices in Amarr an Astrahus is over 1b without the cost of BPCs and the Fortizar is over 11B


Thats why I plan to get all PI materials by myself. Mad PI speculations ahead, so I rather set up few factory planets.

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Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining
#15 - 2016-04-01 08:12:45 UTC
erg cz wrote:
Det Frank Drebin wrote:
I've plugged in the numbers they gave for materials and PI into a spreadsheet I made...with current prices in Amarr an Astrahus is over 1b without the cost of BPCs and the Fortizar is over 11B


Thats why I plan to get all PI materials by myself. Mad PI speculations ahead, so I rather set up few factory planets.


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Aaron Raus
Whispering Pines Golf Club
#16 - 2016-04-01 08:25:05 UTC
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
erg cz wrote:
Det Frank Drebin wrote:
I've plugged in the numbers they gave for materials and PI into a spreadsheet I made...with current prices in Amarr an Astrahus is over 1b without the cost of BPCs and the Fortizar is over 11B


Thats why I plan to get all PI materials by myself. Mad PI speculations ahead, so I rather set up few factory planets.


And if you mine all the minerals yoursel they'll be free :D Roll


Well, apart from early mexalon speculation there is no much reason to expect citadel to put more presure on minerals market. But PI... thats whole other story. The bigger question is - who and when will start sell first BPC? It will take a lot of time to research and copy, from what I have heard.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#17 - 2016-04-01 17:25:58 UTC
Smart people may have noticed that the citadels require PI materials.

That's the bottleneck.

There will be a huge demand for citadels initially, and there is unlikely to be enough PI materials to meet that initial demand.
Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#18 - 2016-04-02 07:25:13 UTC
Don't forget fuel costs either. All the modules need to be put online, some with a large amount of fuel blocks. Then there's the hourly cost of each separate module.

So don't forget, every module you add to it adds to the hourly cost.

The price will increase for fuel blocks as well as the Stront per manufacturing run has increased, but the amount gained per ice block will stay the same.

CCP have also said that the Stront requirements per fuel block run will increase over time as well.

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Xanos Blackpaw
Azure Consortium
#19 - 2016-04-15 13:28:24 UTC
Don't feel like making my own thread so I'll just hijack yours. :p

Anyway, it is related. Anyone know the efficiency of refining modules and such on Citadels yet?
Sequester Risalo
German Corps of Engineers 17
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#20 - 2016-04-15 13:33:51 UTC
Xanos Blackpaw wrote:
Don't feel like making my own thread so I'll just hijack yours. :p

Anyway, it is related. Anyone know the efficiency of refining modules and such on Citadels yet?


As far as I understand they have not started working on the industrial new structures yet. So there is no info on that for a while to come.
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