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Fuel Blocks Rip Off

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Death Killer21
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#1 - 2012-01-13 08:15:06 UTC
Hello

Last night i was planning to set my POS up and looking to get some fuel blocks for theswitch over. I have a small POS so it doesnt cost me that much with current prices and current methods of fueling.

I then looked at how many fuel blocks i wud need to fuel my pos for a week. Then did a pri9ce check on how much it was.

It worked out to fuel 1 small amarr pos it costs 280 mill a week!
I worked out then that 1 large pos wud cost near enuf a bill to fuel for a week.

THis is a real rip off.

To fuel one small os for an hour atm u use 1 robotics. With new methods it costs ya 10 Robotics to fuel for an hour.

This is really a stupid way to fuel a pos. With the prices of them sov holders are not going to be able to make enough money to suffice all the pos's they have.

I think they should be run like this

1 Small amarr control tower needs 1 fuel block
1 Medium amarr control tower needs 2 fuel block
1 Large amarr control tower needs 3 fuel block

This would make a lot more sense and p[eoplewould be able to actually AFFORD it.

What do u all think

POs ure comments
Ty
Death

Death killer21

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Ai Shun
#2 - 2012-01-13 08:18:44 UTC
Why is Chrome not popping up with a Translate button?
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#3 - 2012-01-13 08:20:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Tronic
You do realize fuel blocks on market are currently overpriced due to speculators?

If you were to make the fuel blocks YOURSELF, you will find it only costs ~200mil for a medium tower and half of that for a small.

Edit: I just took a look at the blueprints....

1 run of the blueprint produces
40 fuel blocks
which is
1 hour for a large tower
2 hours for a medium tower
4 hours for a small tower

to produce that 1 RUN it only requires(gallente case but nearly all are identical except for isotopes)
Heavy Water 150
Liquid Ozone 150
Oxygen Isotopes 400
Oxygen 20
Coolant 8
Enriched Uranium 4
Mechanical Parts 4
Robotics 1

Nowhere is there 10 Robotics to produce 1 hour of fuel.

Please fudging check your math before whining that htis game is hard and unfair.


By the way, your english teacher called, you FAILED.
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#4 - 2012-01-13 08:20:20 UTC  |  Edited by: non judgement
Have you tried looking at the costs to build blocks? Buying from the market, at the moment, could possibly be a bad idea.

Edit: Jack Tronic got in just before me. Saying basically the same thing. How odd that two people straight away said the same thing. Shocked
Durie
WORLDSTAR HIPHOP
Brotherhood of Spacers
#5 - 2012-01-13 08:21:20 UTC
I'm gonna guess that you didn't factor in that the blueprints were changed to produce 10x as many blocks (so that reductions for faction towers and stuff could be applied more easily). I haven't touched a control tower in a while, but your fuel costs should be similar before and after this change.
ariana ailith
Dukalin
#6 - 2012-01-13 08:29:48 UTC
So basically you discovered a new item is overpriced and made a threat about it.

*yawn*

Go make them yourself and make a profit...
Forum Alt Shaishi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-01-13 08:36:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Forum Alt Shaishi
Quote:
To fuel one small os for an hour atm u use 1 robotics. With new methods it costs ya 10 Robotics to fuel for an hour.


No, it costs 1/4 Robotics per hour with the new system for a small pos, 2/4 Robotics for med pos and 1 for a large pos.
Assuming fuel blocks cost 16.000(Currently cost 15.444,92 isk in Amarr), that would work out at about 115M for 30 days for a small pos, 230M for a med one, and 460M for a large one in fuel blocks.

(Cost=Days*hours*pos size*Fuel block price)
(111.2M=30*24*10*15.444,92)<- for a small Amarr pos.

If they are selling for allot more near you, you could consider making them your self, or hauling the from somewhere where they are not that expensive.

Quote:
1 Small amarr control tower needs 1 fuel block
1 Medium amarr control tower needs 2 fuel block
1 Large amarr control tower needs 3 fuel block


The 10 for small, 20 for med and 40 for large pos was done so faction towers could keep their fuel bonus if i'm not mistaken.
Death Killer21
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#8 - 2012-01-13 09:32:21 UTC
Jack Tronic wrote:
You do realize fuel blocks on market are currently overpriced due to speculators?

If you were to make the fuel blocks YOURSELF, you will find it only costs ~200mil for a medium tower and half of that for a small.

Edit: I just took a look at the blueprints....

1 run of the blueprint produces
40 fuel blocks
which is
1 hour for a large tower
2 hours for a medium tower
4 hours for a small tower

to produce that 1 RUN it only requires(gallente case but nearly all are identical except for isotopes)
Heavy Water 150
Liquid Ozone 150
Oxygen Isotopes 400
Oxygen 20
Coolant 8
Enriched Uranium 4
Mechanical Parts 4
Robotics 1

Nowhere is there 10 Robotics to produce 1 hour of fuel.

Please fudging check your math before whining that htis game is hard and unfair.


By the way, your english teacher called, you FAILED.


Ok thank you. I didnt realise that ikt wass like that. I though 1 run on fuel blocks made 1 hour

Thanks you very much

and i typed this fast so thats why ther is spelling mistakes

Death killer21

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ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#9 - 2012-01-13 10:18:22 UTC
The only way the new system is making you pay more is if you didnt use 100% of the CPU and PG for your tower

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.

Jenn Makanen
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-01-13 10:38:15 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
The only way the new system is making you pay more is if you didnt use 100% of the CPU and PG for your tower



Only if you're using a large tower. Scrapyard Bob did the math. You're saving enough on the other components to pay for all the CPU and PG use, for medium and small towers.


OP? Type at a slower pace. People will take you more seriously, if your messages aren't sprinkled with typos and phonetic contractions. You can get away with it in text messages, due to the character limit and poor keyboard. You have a full keyboard and no significant limit here.
Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-01-13 14:13:11 UTC
No, he probably means because your grammar is correct, lets face it, most americans wouldn't know what grammar was if it beat them in the face with a stick ;)

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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-01-13 14:24:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
Congratulations! You found a product with excess profit. Economics dictates that a product/service with excess profit will eventually suffer from excess competition. What that means in Eveland is soon people will be selling the blocks for less than their component products since everything produced from PI and ice harvesting is 'free'.

Don't ban me, bro!

M'nu
Vard School of Cryo Cuisine
#13 - 2012-01-13 14:58:57 UTC
The rest of the world would **** itself if America said "**** You".
My Neutral Toon
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-01-13 15:14:23 UTC
So, make your own fuel blocks. They are actually quite simple to make. All you need is about 4-5 PI planets and some ice. A month old character could make them no problem.


If you need Amarr fuel blocks, send my Industrial alt - Duck Mouth - an Eve mail. I'll work something out with you.

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-01-13 15:27:30 UTC
Death Killer21 wrote:
Ok thank you. I didnt realise that ikt wass like that. I though 1 run on fuel blocks made 1 hour

Thanks you very much

and i typed this fast so thats why ther is spelling mistakes



The irony being, in the time it took you to type that last line (which has a grammatical error by the way) you could have gone back to fix the spelling mistakes.

It's ok to be honest. Just say you are too lazy to bother.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#16 - 2012-01-13 15:37:27 UTC
Too lazy to search for this topic that keeps coming up too. Roll

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Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Barakkus
#17 - 2012-01-13 15:49:30 UTC
1. Start doing PI
2. Buy ice products
3. Make fuel blocks
4. ???
5. Profit

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc

supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
#18 - 2012-01-13 16:04:56 UTC
Death Killer21 wrote:


Ok thank you. I didnt realise that ikt wass like that. I though 1 run on fuel blocks made 1 hour

Thanks you very much

and i typed this fast so thats why ther is spelling mistakes



Right so maybe try to slow downnnnnnn.

Calling 10 year old behind keyboard.
Ma'kal
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-01-13 16:16:10 UTC
A lot of people are giving the OP a 0/10 on troll factor. I think this is going to atleast hit 5 pages so imo that solidly puts this on 5/10 for troll factor because what guys isn't going to go WFT for someone not wanting some dancing in the game heck even SW:TOR has some.
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-01-13 17:24:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Taedrin
Interesting, by MY calculations it costs me just 460 million ISK per MONTH to fuel a LARGE tower using fuel blocks off the market.

Perhaps you need to do your homework first before complaining on the forums?
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