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Best low cost ninja belt ratting T1 cruiser for 0.0
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wizardd
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-04-11 12:58:12 UTC
What is good, cheap and deals dps, but also has agility and slot for cloak?

Lasers and drones would be good (no ammunition problem), but are they any good at these days?
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#2 - 2016-04-11 14:47:52 UTC
[Vexor, Null Ratting]

Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
IFFA Compact Damage Control
Drone Damage Amplifier II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Cap Recharger II
Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Prototype Cloaking Device I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I


Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1

Slapped together in like a minute. 500dps, unlimited ammo, cap stable. Also hyperspatials are a must if you're belt ratting since you'll be warping around so much. Cloak + mwd for safe ish travel. You should definitely go for specific hardeners if you know what kind of rats you're facing, but the AB should let you speed tank most battleship rats easily. Selectable damage type too on the drones.

It's as good as you'll get from a T1 cruiser imo. It's cheap as chips too at 32mil.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#3 - 2016-04-12 03:39:59 UTC
[Vexor Navy Issue, 0.0 Ratting]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier I
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Drone Navigation Computer I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

Drone Link Augmentor I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

[Light ECM Drones x5]
[Faction Appropriate Heavy Drones x5]
[Tailor Rigs for local rats damage].

Not much in the way of agility, but can speed/sig tank many 0.0 sites.

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wizardd
Doomheim
#4 - 2016-04-14 18:42:30 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
[Vexor Navy Issue, 0.0 Ratting]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier I
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Drone Navigation Computer I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

Drone Link Augmentor I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

[Light ECM Drones x5]
[Faction Appropriate Heavy Drones x5]
[Tailor Rigs for local rats damage].

Not much in the way of agility, but can speed/sig tank many 0.0 sites.

Cool, but VNI is not really cheap.

Btw, hows the loot in belt ratting nowadays? Hows officer spawns?
Sheeth Athonille
TerraTroopers
Get Off My Lawn
#5 - 2016-04-14 20:33:12 UTC
Don't expect officer spawns. I've been living in null for a while and have yet to even see one. From what I hear though they are a ***** and a half and usually take a carrier to kill.

Keep your eye out for hauler and commanders though. Might not be able to make use of the haulers loot since it tends to take up a fair bit of volume (it is minerals after all), but commander spawns can drop some pretty decent loot.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#6 - 2016-04-15 06:48:14 UTC
wizardd wrote:
What is good, cheap and deals dps, but also has agility and slot for cloak?

Lasers and drones would be good (no ammunition problem), but are they any good at these days?


You can use any of the combat lines. Each race has 2 of them. The other 2 are one logistic which I wouldn't use for now and one disruption.
The latter require a tad experience but are very much viable.

Take a look at the baby-curse (Arbitrator).

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Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-04-27 22:30:33 UTC
wizardd wrote:
What is good, cheap and deals dps, but also has agility and slot for cloak?

Lasers and drones would be good (no ammunition problem), but are they any good at these days?


I can fulfill all requirements but one with one ship. Stratios. Good, Agility, Cloak, Lasers, Drones. Not cheap.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#8 - 2016-04-27 22:43:56 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
[Vexor, Null Ratting]

...-your Vexor fit...


Why would anyone use a damage bonus on a turret boat these days anyways.

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Maker Atavuli
Atavuli Exploration Society
#9 - 2016-04-28 07:21:02 UTC
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
wizardd wrote:
What is good, cheap and deals dps, but also has agility and slot for cloak?

Lasers and drones would be good (no ammunition problem), but are they any good at these days?


I can fulfill all requirements but one with one ship. Stratios. Good, Agility, Cloak, Lasers, Drones. Not cheap.



These make great ratting boats but if you have to travel much to get where you are going to rat you will end up in a massive bubbled up gate camp. Hop into an interceptor rigged as a taxi find a decent NPC null market that sells the hull you want buy it there. Yes you will pay more for it but you will get it to your target. Cloaks are good but knowledge of the local area and a nice dull NPC chain are best. Possibly the safest way to do this is to pay a freighter service to ship your self a care package into your selected NPC space then you will have everything you need at hand. Please notice I have mentioned NPC space several times, after living in a WH with a static null exit for a year I can assure you that sov holding locals are usually bored as heck. Nothing makes these guys happier than turning you into a loot pinata simply to refill their tear cups. Also it's worth noting that some of the 0.0 anoms now spawn capitols. I haven't yet heard if they land in the belts or not. However I understand they are quite adept at scram - web - blap. Fly Safe

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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#10 - 2016-04-28 11:03:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
you could use an AB bomber for that, works perfectly fine as long as you dont want to kill frigs.
Just move from belt to belt, snag battleship rats and move on, from system to system.

Almost as cheap as a T1 cruiser but a loooot better than that.

something along these lines: http://i.imgur.com/nctqhrj.png
Nomad Vherokic
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2016-04-29 11:04:37 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
[Vexor, Null Ratting]

Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
IFFA Compact Damage Control
Drone Damage Amplifier II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Cap Recharger II
Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Prototype Cloaking Device I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I


Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1

Slapped together in like a minute. 500dps, unlimited ammo, cap stable. Also hyperspatials are a must if you're belt ratting since you'll be warping around so much. Cloak + mwd for safe ish travel. You should definitely go for specific hardeners if you know what kind of rats you're facing, but the AB should let you speed tank most battleship rats easily. Selectable damage type too on the drones.

It's as good as you'll get from a T1 cruiser imo. It's cheap as chips too at 32mil.


Erm...

Are you going for the Vexor equivalent of "I fit my ship like so"?

100mn AB, LSEs, drone nav comp, DDAs + Omni in low. Orbit something at 50km, release drones. You shouldn't be moving your ratting ship around null-sec more than than 1 or 2 jumps to do sites so keeping it safe is irrelevant...
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#12 - 2016-05-28 01:59:22 UTC
Nomad Vherokic wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
[Vexor, Null Ratting]

Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
IFFA Compact Damage Control
Drone Damage Amplifier II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Cap Recharger II
Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Prototype Cloaking Device I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I


Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1

Slapped together in like a minute. 500dps, unlimited ammo, cap stable. Also hyperspatials are a must if you're belt ratting since you'll be warping around so much. Cloak + mwd for safe ish travel. You should definitely go for specific hardeners if you know what kind of rats you're facing, but the AB should let you speed tank most battleship rats easily. Selectable damage type too on the drones.

It's as good as you'll get from a T1 cruiser imo. It's cheap as chips too at 32mil.


Erm...

Are you going for the Vexor equivalent of "I fit my ship like so"?

100mn AB, LSEs, drone nav comp, DDAs + Omni in low. Orbit something at 50km, release drones. You shouldn't be moving your ratting ship around null-sec more than than 1 or 2 jumps to do sites so keeping it safe is irrelevant...


Belt ratting isn't the same as doing null sec anoms. The dudes in this thread who keep suggesting 100MN AB Ishtars/Vexor/VNIs, that's for anoms which are good fits if that's what you want.

OP asked for a belt ratting ship. Which implies warping to belts in a system and killing high value BS rats and faction spawns and moving from system to system. He also specified to want something that won't use ammo (implying he's probably ratting in hostile territory where he can't dock), there are free highslots so I stuck lasers in there because those don't use ammo. Hyperspatials are essential for this since you'll spend a ton of time warping around belts and between systems.
Amanda Chan
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-05-28 06:31:26 UTC
OP has biomassed himself. Nothing to see here.