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Mario Putzo
#181 - 2016-04-13 22:37:25 UTC
CFC will get nothing back, there will be some strong groups who will stay there, probably MC, OSS, OOS, CO2, TEST...probably NC. and PL will hold token space, and plenty of moons. The only folks who will leave will be the guys who have homes, and the guys who live in LS/HS/WH

North is valuable and these alliances invading aren't stupid, there is a lot of ISK up North.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#182 - 2016-04-14 03:01:41 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
over 6 regions blue to each other can't be a good thing for the game)


As opposed to be MBCs 58 regions? :happysun:

I prefer :yayclod: myself

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Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#183 - 2016-04-14 04:31:37 UTC
But you know this
Rain6638
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#184 - 2016-04-14 04:32:35 UTC
This new background is really cool for how it fades into the forum at the top corners

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Geronimo McVain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#185 - 2016-04-14 06:32:06 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Eli Stan wrote:
After a quick glance at membership slopes for groups such as PH, TEST, SMA, LAWN and FCON, plus the announcements of various alliances leaving The Imperium despite remaining blue with them, I think it's very clear that a lot more has happened to The Imperium than being "relocated."
Some of the Imperium alliances got hit pretty hard, like SMA for example, but the core of the Imperium is goons, and they've really just been relocated to lowsec. People might like to pretend that that's it, wars done, they've won, but that's pretty far from reality. The war is still in early stages.

And that's the problem. This is a GAME and most of us play it for FUN! But some people don't play it for fun any longer but to boost their ego. We are fighting over Bits and Bytes and they start twisting peoples arms RL? They are setting the timers to Aussie timezone? They want to win through grinding? Hey, where is the FUN?
Alle these tactics are clever but is this REALLY the way you think fights in this game should be fought? No fun just cold efficiency?

IMHO some people should take a step back and think about why they play this game. It's fun and the meta game including SOV is second. So what could you do to have fun and maybe create fun for other players?

Goonswarm certainly has the reources to make B-R5RB look like a skrimish so why don't they just make a last stand and may go down gloriously fighting instead of winning dirty? This way they can walk proudly away and start somewhere else. And when their current tactics doesn't work Goon will not go down with a bang but be grinded down slowly and painfully and just fade away.

The real question is: do you want that everyone uses these dirty tactics and would EVE really be fun if everyone fights this way? I don't think so.

In my opinion such victories are not worth it because you loose more then you can ever win back with this tactic. But that's just a Noobs idea of playing the game and having fun.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#186 - 2016-04-14 06:56:43 UTC
Geronimo McVain wrote:
And that's the problem. This is a GAME and most of us play it for FUN! But some people don't play it for fun any longer but to boost their ego. We are fighting over Bits and Bytes and they start twisting peoples arms RL? They are setting the timers to Aussie timezone? They want to win through grinding? Hey, where is the FUN?
For some people it's really not a game though. IWI is a site operating as a business using third party software to gain an advantage. At this point it's pretty much stopped being a game. It's not about players using their in-game abilities to fight each other it's about trying to figure out how to stop someone who's using untouchable third party software from picking and choosing targets to eradicate from the game while simultaneously playing with bad mechanics.

It's like back when I played CS and a hacker would come in and join your team speeding his way around knifing everyone to death. Sure at first it was funny to watch the enemy getting smashed to pieces but pretty rapidly it loses that novelty and you realise it's just a cheater taking an easy route. Luckily back then there were admins to enforce the rules, but here CCP seem like they have no intention of keeping the playing field level. So sure, the Imperium might fall, but to be honest if earning trillions through third party software is how to win EVE then what's the point in playing at all?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#187 - 2016-04-14 06:57:03 UTC
Hahaha, you'd like that huh.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
FOl2TY8
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#188 - 2016-04-14 06:59:14 UTC
Life is like a game like counter-strike, the bomb has been planted.
Myrddin Calyx
Doomheim
#189 - 2016-04-14 06:59:17 UTC
A glorious last stand of the Goonswarm fleets is exactly what PL/NC./etc. want.

Why the **** would we give them that?
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#190 - 2016-04-14 07:02:23 UTC
technically the time zone is in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, not quite AU.

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Sloof Singapore
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#191 - 2016-04-14 07:08:31 UTC
You come to our house, you play by our rules!
Dreiden Kisada
State War Academy
Caldari State
#192 - 2016-04-14 07:12:10 UTC
Geronimo McVain wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Eli Stan wrote:
After a quick glance at membership slopes for groups such as PH, TEST, SMA, LAWN and FCON, plus the announcements of various alliances leaving The Imperium despite remaining blue with them, I think it's very clear that a lot more has happened to The Imperium than being "relocated."
Some of the Imperium alliances got hit pretty hard, like SMA for example, but the core of the Imperium is goons, and they've really just been relocated to lowsec. People might like to pretend that that's it, wars done, they've won, but that's pretty far from reality. The war is still in early stages.

And that's the problem. This is a GAME and most of us play it for FUN! But some people don't play it for fun any longer but to boost their ego. We are fighting over Bits and Bytes and they start twisting peoples arms RL? They are setting the timers to Aussie timezone? They want to win through grinding? Hey, where is the FUN?
Alle these tactics are clever but is this REALLY the way you think fights in this game should be fought? No fun just cold efficiency?

IMHO some people should take a step back and think about why they play this game. It's fun and the meta game including SOV is second. So what could you do to have fun and maybe create fun for other players?

Goonswarm certainly has the reources to make B-R5RB look like a skrimish so why don't they just make a last stand and may go down gloriously fighting instead of winning dirty? This way they can walk proudly away and start somewhere else. And when their current tactics doesn't work Goon will not go down with a bang but be grinded down slowly and painfully and just fade away.

The real question is: do you want that everyone uses these dirty tactics and would EVE really be fun if everyone fights this way? I don't think so.

In my opinion such victories are not worth it because you loose more then you can ever win back with this tactic. But that's just a Noobs idea of playing the game and having fun.


So, basically, the only way to have fun in this game is the way you find fun? Everyone else is wrong?

Or is it more that anything we find fun and entertaining is wrong?

Because I'll tell you what, i'm having a good time kiting people to death with Asher, and reading the forum porn of people who are so whiney about us not undocking single file to fill up our enemies' kill limit as if this was an episode of Futurama.

Why should we go down gloriously when we can just do what we've always done, and come out on top later and laugh at all the moral posts and VFK memes? Answer me this.
Cyno Cop
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#193 - 2016-04-14 07:12:22 UTC
Sov is essentially meaningless
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#194 - 2016-04-14 07:36:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Chewytowel Haklar
Nullsec needs a RESET, and I have a feeling this is the start of a much bigger upcoming fight. If groups have made progress taking out Deklein I bet no one is safe. But then again what do I know, I suck at this game.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#195 - 2016-04-14 07:46:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Dreiden Kisada wrote:
So, basically, the only way to have fun in this game is the way you find fun? Everyone else is wrong?

Or is it more that anything we find fun and entertaining is wrong?

No, it's just we're wrong, that's all.

Dreiden Kisada wrote:
Because I'll tell you what, i'm having a good time kiting people to death with Asher,

Asher, the 23rd best FC in the Imperium and the hero we need.

Dreiden Kisada wrote:
laugh at all the moral posts and VFK memes?

Well we are immortal, horny white boy lifestyle that involves wallowing in pleasure, and all.

I think VFK station is now freeported, so if you hurry you can get there in an interceptor and dock.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
tasman devil
Puritans
#196 - 2016-04-14 08:00:08 UTC
Can someone please give me a link to that conversation logs that reveal mittens threatening CCP and the like?

I don't belive in reincarnation I've never believed in it in my previous lives either...
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#197 - 2016-04-14 08:13:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
I'm sure if you google for memes like "bend the knee" you'll find it.


Geronimo McVain wrote:
But some people don't play it for fun any longer but to boost their ego.

Hey, don't be too rude to your elitePVP saviors, you're not the ones bringing the nondocking ships to remove the "literal cancer killing eve".

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Soviet Love Hammer
Fruity Undertones
#198 - 2016-04-14 08:18:04 UTC
I'm a ganker and what is this
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#199 - 2016-04-14 08:32:00 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Geronimo McVain wrote:
And that's the problem. This is a GAME and most of us play it for FUN! But some people don't play it for fun any longer but to boost their ego. We are fighting over Bits and Bytes and they start twisting peoples arms RL? They are setting the timers to Aussie timezone? They want to win through grinding? Hey, where is the FUN?
For some people it's really not a game though. IWI is a site operating as a business using third party software to gain an advantage. At this point it's pretty much stopped being a game. It's not about players using their in-game abilities to fight each other it's about trying to figure out how to stop someone who's using untouchable third party software from picking and choosing targets to eradicate from the game while simultaneously playing with bad mechanics.

It's like back when I played CS and a hacker would come in and join your team speeding his way around knifing everyone to death. Sure at first it was funny to watch the enemy getting smashed to pieces but pretty rapidly it loses that novelty and you realise it's just a cheater taking an easy route. Luckily back then there were admins to enforce the rules, but here CCP seem like they have no intention of keeping the playing field level. So sure, the Imperium might fall, but to be honest if earning trillions through third party software is how to win EVE then what's the point in playing at all?





GSF used to boast one of the largest warchests in EVE, ya'll have spent years sitting in one spot literally farming isk through tech moons (they used to be the bees knees as far as moons go, no pun intended) renting, and just plain ratting. Where are all these supers and titans and dreads your leaders boasted about? A couple rich dudes paying for our SRP shouldn't be able to hold a candle to the MIGHTY IMPERIUM and their vast isk reserves. You do still have isk reserves right? They didn't walk away to pay for any boat trips or something...

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Dolorous Tremmens
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#200 - 2016-04-14 08:32:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Dolorous Tremmens
Game testers are people that jump into walls of video games, or other mind numbing tasks for 8 hours+ per day, 5 days+ per week. Some of them enjoy it.

Who doesn't want other people to enjoy the same things they do? Its not fighting dirty, its just having fun. What do you have against fun? You never know, you might enjoy it.

Get some Eve. Make it yours.