EVE General Discussion

I think that one was Nosy actually.

Only that SMA is out, and the "Casino" stated that they only paid mercs against SMA. Will it still be a Casino War?

What will likely be true throughout the whole war is, that the aggressor for the most part doesn't give a **** about sov.

Yes.

IWI stated that it is now paying for total war against the Goons, courtesy of Mittens trying to get an angle on IWI out of game.

You can read the article here.

Yea... That was funny writeup:
- we are out of game organization (IWI)
- they (Mittany) cannot attack us in game
- we (IWI) can attack them in the game
- they (Mittani) used out of game means to fight us!
=

And this is why MBC fights (as the saying goes).

Salt indeed.... Seeing goons deploy SJW-like tactics lends a certain sperging element to all this that makes me wonder if this is a going to become a meta-demographic war. What "kind of people" are these goons? We'll find out. I don't expect the results to be the kind that raises faith in humanity.

Some funny replies to that tweet though. "Flustered Cucks Coalition". LOL.

welp can't argue with a bona fide prophecy rip imperium

unless the prophecy has been misinterpreted... or has it? the twist is at the start of act iii probably

I have a lot of sympathy with this position. It must be immensely frustrating to face an enemy that you cannot actually attack in game. It is funny at the moment because it is goons but honestly, the position it leaves us all in is an unhealthy one.

But to address it you would really have to severely curtail gambling in EVE and CCP is demonstrably unwilling to do so.

There is ALWAYS an avenue to attack. A function running outside of the game would be starved by cutting off it's in-game funds. What 'The Mittani' was trying to do was trying to rules lawyer an attack up but it seems to have fallen flat with CCP. So, now 'The Mittani' is trying to bad mouth and bad PR the IWI out of their ISK stream. The issue I see is that he has an unpopularity problem. If the IWI CEO is not making up that their constant stream of players have doubled, the I think 'The Mittani' has an even bigger unpopularity problem on his hands than many have speculated.

I'll make a small change and see how the same conditions might play out.

A vastly popular player who runs a massive alliance,
is selfless,
is always helping everyone become better at the game,
constantly improving the game even at the cost of his own accomplishments not being noticed,
elevates his corporation mates/alliance member corps,
mitgates with fairness all the squabbles and problems that arise,
surrounds himself with people that do the same,
is essentially beloved by all... has a on-line bank declare war on his alliance.

He graciously accepts the war, and since he's kept his forces trained, sharp and ready to go, even outnumbered they are a tough fight.

Now, the attackers would be seen as trying to dig into an alliance that was well respected for only (as the IWI CEO put it 'the fun of it') they likely would be in it for as long as the fun was actually fun. But if serious gains were made against the popular alliance and that alliance kept up the good fight, eventually EVE public opinion would turn and say "Okay, fun is fun, content is content but this has about run its course." and that probably would suck the life out of the attack. The bank and the Alliance leader would smoke the peace pipe, laugh over it, hand out some awards for stellar performances, and peace breaks out.

In essence, as the IWI CEO somewhat pointed out, if 'The Mittani' had been well liked in EVE or even stayed within the game, the attack would've been dead by now because even the IWI CEO wouldn't want to spend more ISK on it and EVE would've gone back to normal. Instead it seems to have gotten personal, which is easy to happen, but it probably will drag this war out. By doing what he did, 'The Mittani', actually opened up a second front for the war. That rarely works out well unless you have an extreme upper hand or fanatically loyal followers....

The reason a bank isn't really a problem as an agressor is that they don't have any real assets other than to hire mercs as agressors. It's why you can't attack them, but it's also their Achilles Heel. They are a non-entity. If nobody played their 'out of game...game' or opted to work for them, they are nothing. The MBC could fall apart tomorrow even if the ISK stream was strong. The only galvanizing force for the MBC here seems to be a genuine dislike of a single person.

I'm not saying it's founded or unfounded, I'm just stating what I'm seeing going on here. My guess would be if 'The Mittani' acted differently and made up for whatever his percieved failures were, or left the game... the war would peter out to nothing in the matter of a couple of weeks.

Just a guess though.

P.S. Using 'quotes' on 'The Mittani' to allow for all of the various perceptions of him and the moniker to be appropriate. He's appears to have a multi-operable entitiy on the term and I don't want to offend any of the possible ways to use his entity-ness.

I left EVE for the time being because I am busy with exams. Now it seems like MBC may burn down Goonswarm before I'm done exams on the 19th (and before EVEFest).

Which makes me wonder how exactly things will unfold at the EVE Fanfest. A lot of people will be there, and I'd bet dollars to diamonds that The Mittani will be there as well to try to promote himself or something else. If things turn out worse than they did at Fanfest 2012 (that event is immortalized on Cracked.com), he might wind up getting himself ejected from EVE altogether.

One way ticket back to reality. No call backs. No re-funds. No chance to create a new character (possibly). The name "The Mittani" will be inflicted with "Damnatio Memoriae".

No one will even know his name.