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Citadel Compression & Reprocessing separated and to be taxable.
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Jerppu3

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

Likes received: 10

#1 - 2016-04-08 04:14:38 UTC

I think this topic need a more information and discussion. First CCP Claymore asked why would we want compression separated from reprocessing and taxable. I can come up with the scenario which I was thinking, to deploy citadel to remote system where there is no station (even with in few jump range). I would then open it for public and provide reprocessing and compression services. Now the problem is, with the current CCP plan, most of the people would just compress the ore/ice for free and haul it to some market hub or some other system where they need it. Almost no one would use the reprocessing. The business model like this is broken with current implementation. I would pay the fuel for people to compress their ore/ice for free. Not sure if I can tax docking in Citadel, but that's not good alternative to collect fuel cost + something extra for myself.

So from my point of view reprocessing and compression services must be separate and taxable. @CCP Claymore, does this make any sense? Do I have incorrect information?

Others, please share your conserns and ideas regarding this topic.

Cheers!

CCP Claymore wrote:

Compression we are keeping tied with reprocessing and not taxable, but I am curious why you would want it separate and taxable?

Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:

The reason to separate it

if i cant tax or block compression then i can simply compress over 1Mm3 of ore and haul it 13 or so jumps to the inebitable citadel that will have 0 or almost 0 refining

or the main reason i want it for citadels

say i set up a citadel with the hopes of getting a small local market going.

in order to do this i set up the citadel to have 0 refine to promote the buy and sell of ore and minerals in my citadel however there is a better place to sell 15 or so jumps from me. why would anyone want to sell here if they can just compress for free and then easily haul over to that other market?(this will be an issue as well when assembly is added)

and finally as a citadel owner why can i not charge for a servace i am paying to fuel.

there are also situations where compression is the only service that would be needed meaning i have no hope making isk off of ppl refining in my citadel such as out of the way ice belts in systems with no station or systems no where near stations but large numbers of ore belts.

basically forcing us to let ppl compress if we want to try to tax refining makes it really hard to tax refining. It limits tools to help prompt new local markets. and finanly it limits potential opportunities for players to be able to isk should they see a need for compression but not refining

jerppu3 wrote:

AGREED! ofc compression need to be separeted from refining. What's the point to deploy citadel in system and offer public services like reprocessing and compressing, when everyone can compress the minerals/ice and haul them away for free. All I get is the fuel bill.


Jerppu3 School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State Likes received: 10	#2 - 2016-04-11 04:48:25 UTC Heya, would be nice to hear what others think and comments from CCP.

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Lugh Crow-Slave Likes received: 3,997	#3 - 2016-04-12 05:33:03 UTC I think we know where I stand on this BLOPS Hauler The 16.8km Bubble