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Hauler / Salvager / Explorer - Seeking Help - Offering In Return

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Wtdou Beviveno
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#1 - 2016-04-08 03:53:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Wtdou Beviveno
Hello!
My name is Jonah, aka Wtdou. I am an Indy Player here on Eve. I am currently running 3 accounts and I am looking for someone interested in making some ISK, on an as needed basis.

What I Do...

Hauling
Right now I am in the process of hauling roughly 21,650 m3 in a Tanked T1 Bestower. My fee is 250k ISK per jump.
Sorry gents, I do not provide collateral for this service. As it is High-Sec and I never pass through Low-Sec or Null Space. Seeking an escort or two to be paid per successful haul.

Mining
I mine regularly in High Sec / Worm Holes using my 2 Procurers and currently net 300 mil a week. Both Procurers are T1 tanked a long with a Miasmos I use for transport.
Not Hiring, Feel Free To Contract Me Any Work For Mins or Ore! (No Gas or Ice For Sale)

Exploration/Salvage
I also Explore regularly on Thursdays and Sundays, for WHs, Data Sites, Relic Sites, Combat Sites, etc.
Hiring For Combat Pilots!! I am looking for 1 or 2 Skilled Pilots to clear Combat Sites / Relic and Data Sites for me on a regular basis (Please Be Available On A Regular Basis). You keep all the ISK, we will split Salvage (50/50 once a week)!!

**I understand that a lot of people may take offense or have something negative about how I Haul. However, since I stay in High Sec, it works. Please DO NOT respond / post unless you have constructive feedback.... all other posts will be ignored.
Hades Dark
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-04-08 04:08:03 UTC
You will probably have better luck in the Want Ads & Trades forums as your seeking players to hire for a job and selling your services as a hauler.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#3 - 2016-04-08 10:53:09 UTC
OK, constructive feedback:

Hauling: With zero collateral, there's no guarantee you won't just keep the goods being transported, and anyone with low volume contracts to haul would have absolutely no problem finding a competitive price somewhere like the haulers channel. There's next to no chance anyone will use your service without collateral.

Mining: What can you offer over people just buying ore/minerals on the open market. Are you able to sell in large quantities or fulfill large orders in good time at a competitive price? You need to give people an idea of what you are offering here.

Exploration/Salvage: Pretty much the same as above. What do you offer over someone just clearing the sites themselves? Also if they are in a fleet with you you'll naturally gain a split of their bounties anyway.

Overall it seems like you need to think about what the other party gains by working with you or using your services and make that a lot clearer, otherwise you won't really entice anyone.

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Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2016-04-08 11:56:36 UTC
Wtdou Beviveno wrote:

However, since I stay in High Sec, it works.

What happens if CODE shows up and blows you to smithereens? What happens to all my stuff? Half the point of hauling is putting the risk on the more skilled hauler rather than trying to move it myself.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!

Wtdou Beviveno
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#5 - 2016-04-08 18:46:46 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
OK, constructive feedback:

Hauling: With zero collateral, there's no guarantee you won't just keep the goods being transported, and anyone with low volume contracts to haul would have absolutely no problem finding a competitive price somewhere like the haulers channel. There's next to no chance anyone will use your service without collateral.

Mining: What can you offer over people just buying ore/minerals on the open market. Are you able to sell in large quantities or fulfill large orders in good time at a competitive price? You need to give people an idea of what you are offering here.

Exploration/Salvage: Pretty much the same as above. What do you offer over someone just clearing the sites themselves? Also if they are in a fleet with you you'll naturally gain a split of their bounties anyway.

Overall it seems like you need to think about what the other party gains by working with you or using your services and make that a lot clearer, otherwise you won't really entice anyone.



Hauling:
That is fine, it is up to them - this is not a major source of income for me - right now anyway. So it's their choice. Considering I am charging only 250k Isk per jump, that is cheaper then most other Hauler's I've seen advertising.

Mining:
As I mentioned, I run 3 accounts. 2 Procurers and 1 Miasmos, so yes I sell in large quantities. On top of that I charge roughly -5% of est.isk of current system.

Explore/Salvage:
Please re-read this as it states clearly what they get... Salvage will be split 50/50 once a week (Fridays), and they get the ISK from the site itself (even my share). So they are making more then I am. Which is fine, because they are doing more work.

Thanks!
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#6 - 2016-04-09 09:44:33 UTC
Wtdou Beviveno wrote:
Hauling:
That is fine, it is up to them - this is not a major source of income for me - right now anyway. So it's their choice. Considering I am charging only 250k Isk per jump, that is cheaper then most other Hauler's I've seen advertising.
It's cheaper that freighters, but the haulers channel could definitaly get you T1 hauler volumes shipped for much less and with full collateral.

Wtdou Beviveno wrote:
Mining:
As I mentioned, I run 3 accounts. 2 Procurers and 1 Miasmos, so yes I sell in large quantities. On top of that I charge roughly -5% of est.isk of current system.
What is "current system"? Most people will go with Jita prices. If you can undercut that at under Jita prices and can handle volumes upwards of 200 million units of trit, drop me a mail.

Wtdou Beviveno wrote:
Explore/Salvage:
Please re-read this as it states clearly what they get... Salvage will be split 50/50 once a week (Fridays), and they get the ISK from the site itself (even my share). So they are making more then I am. Which is fine, because they are doing more work.
But what do they get from you being there that they don't get if they just did it alone?

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#7 - 2016-04-09 11:00:09 UTC
You tried posting this crap in GD and, when your arrogance and hubris got the better of you, you resort to shitposting it everywhere?


Unbelieveable, reported. Perhaps it might be time to crawl back into the belly of the whale for a while and think about what you've done...Jonah.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Wtdou Beviveno
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#8 - 2016-04-09 20:19:32 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
You tried posting this crap in GD and, when your arrogance and hubris got the better of you, you resort to shitposting it everywhere?


Unbelieveable, reported. Perhaps it might be time to crawl back into the belly of the whale for a while and think about what you've done...Jonah.


I was told to try posting it here and in Trade. So I did, and I removed the other post(s).
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#9 - 2016-04-11 02:44:40 UTC
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