EVE General Discussion

I would have loved dailies when i started. I am sure it would help new players tremendously...

This could also be a chance to introduce more dangerous space to new players... create dailies like:

"Visit Poitot, the only named system in Syndicate!"

All ships valid except for shuttle, newbie ships and pods.

T1 frigate would be enough and new players could feel the rush of dangerous space without losing to much :)

That would work for a while, but will it still be engaging gameplay after a couple of days? You log in all you characters, kill a rat, grab an interceptor, fly to poitot, fly to the eve gate, mine a cycles worth of ore, trade a random item on the market, get SP, log off, do the same thing tomorrow. And you will want to do this on every character, as doing this every day can get you 2 skill extractors worth of SP after 7 weeks on top of what your main character is training, assuming the reward stays at "kill rat, get 10k SP per character and day".

And since the reward is SP, you don't have many alternatives. So especially new players who need them will feel like they are running in a treadmill after a week.

The beauty about "leveling" in Eve used to be, that it absolutly didn't matter if you didn't have time to play for a week. In WoW, let's say, if you don't play for a week, you'll be a week behind your friends. If you don't play a week in Eve, you're still on the same level as if you were had you played 12 hours every day.

This system doesn't just set up a reward for logging in every day, it kind of sets up a penalty for not logging in. Because, really - you don't do much beyond logging in. The proposed mechanic doesn't require any knowledge or skill or anything beyond logging in. You log in, you warp into a belt, kill a rat, log out - preferrably in the belt so you'll land next to a rat when you log in tomorrow. Someone linked it above - this is pretty much the Skinnerbox in it's most basic form: Push Button, get food.


Here's my take on this:

- instead of SP, give out "CCP Corp Loyalty Points" (because, that's kind of what it is - you are loyal to the game and CCP if you log in and do stuff every day) which you can trade in for a bunch of unique skins, silly hats, monocles, what have you.
- make the tasks varied and change everyday randomly. One day you'll have to mine a certain ore, ice or gas, next day you'll have to kill a specific type of rat (guristas, sanshas, sleeper, drifter...), or find a complex, run an escalation site, produce a module, research a blueprint, fly to poitot, kill a player, anchor a bubble ... with only one of those tasks being valid each day. Of course you won't know exactly what you'll have to do tomorrow.

That way, newbies can still get something worthwhile out of it by selling the stuff on the market, but it won't be such a massive hit if you don't partake. If you do want the loyalty points, you will need to do something at times you may never have done before, but you don't need to grind the same task everyday, and especially with tasks like "visit the eve gate" or "fly to the only named system in syndicate" you will actually create some content without promoting a permabubblecamp in poitot.

your arguments have a lot of merit. The system possibly even has to have a hard cap for example lets say 40million sp. afterwards you can't gain SP rewards. Also the "quests" would have to get progressively harder. Like not only visiting Poitot but opening a market in some npc null region and sell stuff worth 50 million ISK or something like that. Not dailies but "monthlies" if you will.

I don't quite understand, what about my sp statement don't you agree with?

From CCP's skill injector blog - 'we make sure there is one single mechanism that brings new skillpoints in to the system – training.'

Where is your integrity CCP? Where is your commitment to a harsh universe CCP?

I think that you`ve answered to yourself there. If you dont like dailies, don`t do them.

PI is very much a feature that ties with industry very heavily. Its a lot more thought out and implemented with a lot of specific things like extractors, planning, a lot of schematics, planet resources etc. Simulating real economy and production. It boils down to logging in daily or every second day, but it is much more engaging in that it gives you a long term plan and ISK. It is the equivalent of dailies for EVE. Every feature developed by them, that should bring in more activity, should tie in with game more than "pick up ten rat tail and bring them for 10 xp over and over". Such low hanging fruit as proposed means devs are bad and dont have ideas or dont want to implement them because they are hard for them to do.

We need CONCORD, reasonable target, longer planning, longer timespan between rewards and more choices. Make it like if CONCORD would observe and praise you for reasonable things you do for them interacting with playerbase, criminals for example. Dont make anything slap onto you a badge "moderately good citizen" every day for boring stuff, because that will only cause frustration. Give AU or special faction items, ships, clothing and modules from CONCORD.

Oh shut up

This is a business, end of story, you can give CCP **** with ur ranting forum posts, but guess what?

THEY DON'T CARE

Dailys, good, bring it on, i look forward to it

But hey, why should anyone have a voice if ccp are too busy raking in dank dollar. After all if they want to continue down the path they are going and eventually turn eve into another WoW clone then so be it, at least give us a roadmap that clearly labels the end point as world of warcraft.

How many times has this been said? Weren't people going to quit in droves after fozziesov, Injectors dropped, etc. Now we have a war going with log-in figures over 40k. People are getting fights and have more flexibility over their skill queue to get back in the game.