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It appears that CCP is continuing to expand the concept of making everything (goods, services, territory, isk, power - and even time itself {aka SP}) more directly within control of, and competed over by, players.

Very brave move for a vernable, successful MMO that needs to truly differentiate itself in a diverse and aggressive market while growing an active player base. These micro-transaction machines don't scale themselves - you gotta BUILD IT!

But CCP learned a lot about all of this with DUST. As sad as many are to see DUST fade into... well dust, that was a laboratory of progress and learning about everything from micro-transactions to how to balance a more complex skillpoint stream and keep players playing. And paying.

Good Job CCP - Forge ahead into this new territory and do new stuff!

I needed a way to get these alts up to 5mil faster. And we're all PI farming for the new markets anyway. Good times, noodle salad.

Dailies were a vile idea in every other MMO, which leaves me curious as to how CCP devs came to the conclusion that it's a good idea for Eve?

Aside from that, it alienates professions other than ratting and mining. Nice job there!

For the record I am a ratter and still hate the cheap feel of this 'feature'.

I'm disappointed in your team, Rise. How about instead of adding tawdry features to the defunct system, redesign the bloody awful PvE experience in Eve to actually encourage players to engage without the thought of grind?

CCP, dailies are the bane of every other MMO's model, its what everyone is doing. One of the shining parts to EVE that (In my opinion) has kept it alive for so long is how different it was from the main stream MMO's... Again this is my opinion.

One of the only reasons that player activity has moved up recently is prob more to do with the residents of EVE banding against goons and less due to skill injectors. I would ask that the team go back to some of EVE's original principals and stop following suite.

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I login the forum and told you frankly rather than shitpost in Reddit, listen: This is the ******* stupid idea after your 'fleet warp' change proposal.

Daily Mission? come on, we are not playing Korean MMO.

NO.

Well lets not be so anti - maybe just sell skillpoints created out of thin air? 30USD for 500k SP seems a good idea imo. And 500 SP for every hour you are logged in, in addition to the SP you get when not logged in.

TO BE $%^@in& SERIOUS... in my personal opinion it does not seem WISE for CCP to kill their own game with a psychological trick that is trying to make people log in for OTHER REASONS than I want to play some EVE. This is why I quit EVERY other game that has this implemented.

NO

And this would only be the first...

In the end we will have to pvp in our miners,
start industry jobs on our titan pilots,
scan down sites with the market toons,
and more. to not feel that we miss out on stuff.

New players will be forced to train and do stuff all over the place to not miss out on this, as this will be a huge deal for low sp chars.
And gone is the Idea that you should train into something specialized fast and be usefull in a group...

first monocles,
then pay to win with skill injectors,
and now this.

remember to give me the teleport my ship to jita button that I can use once per day

I want to log in cause I want to play Eve, and if you have a 2 digit number of characters, this will make me cringe having to log on every single one of them or MISS OUT ON FREE SP.

This is making my tummy feel uneasy. Slippery slope is getting more slippery.

I have a lot of trouble with this argument. EVE development is littered with examples of features which were supposed to be iterated on after release and were just dropped.

The problem is that it opens the door for similar themepark-style features to be implemented into the game... they specifically said in the OP that they were planning on expanding on all of this.

After reading some (but no where near all) of this soon-to-be-threadnaught, I'd like to look at some of the key points that have been brought up against this idea:

- Devaluation of SP (some would say further devaluation, after all, skill trading devalued it too). This ties in with other points.

- Feeling left out if you don't do your dailies. SO MUCH THIS. This is what sucks about dailies, you feel like you have to do them or you're missing out on important progression or payouts. One poster took it to an extreme with examples of ratting in mining ships, doing industry jobs from titans, etc. I cannot stress this factor enough, with dailies, you have to do them. If you don't, you're missing out on whatever it is the daily gets you. I absolutely HATE the idea of adding dailies to EVE, but I'd still end up doing them because after all, I'd be missing out on (in this case) SP if I didn't. Much as I hated skill trading, that is at least ignorable, as you have to spend isk on it (or buy is with cash then spend the isk), so there's a consideration of is it worth the cost. For dailies? Nope, no such consideration, not really. Sure you can try to justify to yourself not to do it, but in the end if you don't, you're still missing out on that extra SP.

- What happened to the only source of SP being training (aside from the occasional gift SP from CCP for severe downtimes or whatnot). This game had the appeal of having a passive real time training system, one that you could not grind like xp to race to "max level." This concept was core to the game, it took a serious blow with skill trading, which at least didn't create extra SP, and in fact created a significant SP sink, both in diminishing returns, and the occasional lossmail with injectors in cargo. However that SP sink doesn't justify adding in daily SP grinds. Not by a longshot.


Seriously CCP, don't do this, EVE does not need dailies. It should not have dailies. As others have said, dailies are the bane of many an MMO. Many came to this game in part because it did not have dailies.

Just say no to dailies.