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Cos a bunch of low sec space barbarians and homeless space mercs, backed by some sort of generous space magnat, will SURELY destroy de gewn and chase dem gewns outa their space. Surely, right?

Pretty ironic speech coming from a CFC pilot. Back in the day, the CFC pretty much rolled over anybody they didn't like.

Not really seeing the irony. What I'm saying is that either we will continue rolling over anyone, or the new superpower will.

no baby titans?

Are ihubs (and upgrades) on there?

But you weren't talking about dependent on them to survive an assault from a large coalition, you were talking about general dependence. Outside of wartime or against alliances in our weight range we have very little reliance on the rest of the Imperium.

Except it doesn't, it simply means you need more people too. No matter how few systems you cram your people into, a bigger, stronger alliance will steamroll you.

Like I say, the amount of space able to be defended from light attacks at peace is higher than the amount while at full war. We can't actively defend that much space hit in that many places all at once, so compacting down while at war is a necessity. After the war expansion can continue.

Sure.

Indeed I am. We've just chosen the route of being an active participant in our defense as a group and get the rewards of the same unlike a small unaffiliated alliance who gain no benefits from the larger group yet can still be crushed at any moment the larger group chooses.

I don't expect them to stay together, but I fully expect several limited engagement pacts to be made between them (the old gudfites deals), and standout groups like PL/PH to be 10-15k players (and they are pretty much there). I don't know why you think PH would suddenly not be blue with PL, and I certainly can't see many of these groups ever going to all out war against each other.

If there isn't another on then it will be the Imperium. This is what you don't seem to get. Even if Imperium lose the war (and we are a long way from that) the coalition will only be relocated, not destroyed, so the moment the BoB coalition breaks up they'll get attacked and be forced to reform.

See the problem is you seem to think that what has been accomplished so far is it, now you just need to go ping some timers and the Imperium is dead and you can all dance around in circles. It's just not that simple. I doubt you even have the longevity to see it through to the end.

Usually every revolution on the Earth finishes this way: old 'democrats' taken over power forget their principles... People say: after killing the dragon you become new dragon.

Let's just wait and see. But in EveO we usually see peoples in nature....

Fair point. The cfc will be remembered as powerful, the imperium will be remembered for failed invasions of provi and lowsec and then the fastest collapse in history.

Whats wrong with having good fight deals? It literally has been successful in every location in the game that it is in effect. Russians have played that way since day 1, fight each other, but band together if someone tries to **** on us. What is wrong with that. Just because you might help your neighbor in a war, doesn't mean you can't fight them during "peace" time.

CFC lost this and being essentially cut out of the content (partly by their own policy, and rest of EVE essentially ignoring them) they have become fat, and incapable of filling fleets. GSF can only get 1% of its playerbase into a coalition Fleet? FCON and CO2 were both hovering around 10%. I assume Razor is at 100% contribution for their WH fleet since no one has seen them in 2 months...or TNT and EXE who combined can get 50 dudes.

I mean look at your own Alliance, when Content Ring was a thing, you guys were putting decent fleets out on your own, building members and numbers because there was **** to do, people to fight...you know the fun stuff people like to do. When CFC came to "help" and cleared out content ring, SMA started going sideways, and it became a game of make them break for ruining content ring...and of course the IWI thing on the back of that.

In regards to "seeing it through" it is through. The CFC is dead, now its all about fraggin Goons. You think that MBC cares what or where SMA goes, or FCON, its not about you guys, its called World War Bee for a reason. Mittens and Sion put a target on their backs, and now that their meatshields are scattered and beat up thats it. Ive watched 4 Space Empires die, your story is no different, your empire is dead...some groups might come out of it, but they won't be the same, and the coalition will never be the same. Its done. Beaten down. Over. Even if MBC left right now, for whatever reason. CFC will never be what it was before.

Since the coalition was exactly the same before and after the rebrand, are you saying the new name is a bad one?