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What we grrrrgoons going to do?

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Evasive Shadow Assassin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#201 - 2016-04-08 07:33:14 UTC
It's happens before, its happening again

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BOB
RED ALLIANCE
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CA (Original)

They all fell to onslaught from the masses


The good thing about eve is its predictability,

History repeats itself on here because alliance leaders always make the same mistakes

What do men with power crave?

More power

More power - leads to war

Humans do not learn from their mistakes

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#202 - 2016-04-08 07:43:46 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Roll They sure don't make NPC alt sperglords like they used to.

Very true.

But I do aspire to making my sperging to the next level. One day maybe.

Unfortunately until then, I'll have to be an amateur rather than a pro sperglord like yourself. Seems to be the one thing SMA are good at.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#203 - 2016-04-08 08:35:52 UTC
It's no good, I just can't take any more of these searing blows. Biomassing now.

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Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#204 - 2016-04-08 09:12:06 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
It's no good, I just can't take any more of these searing blows. Biomassing now.


Can I watch? and stuff, you know how it goes.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#205 - 2016-04-08 09:20:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
Drago Shouna wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
It's no good, I just can't take any more of these searing blows. Biomassing now.
Can I watch? and stuff, you know how it goes.
Lol, you wish you could have my stuff, you'd certainly not be crying about putting up a large citadel P

If I were ever going I'd probably do something spectacular with it before I went.

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Trudeaux Margaret
University of Caille
#206 - 2016-04-08 11:55:48 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Proof enough that whatever time you were in SMA for was incredibly short and your exposure limited. MBC don't want the sov and even if they do want it they won't be able to keep it since fozziesov almost guarantees a loss for the defender in anything even resembling and even fight. And sure, maybe SMA won't survive, but the fun is in the trying. Anyone jumping ship now is simply proving they don't have what it takes to be an EVE player, let alone a wartime Imperium member.



Sure, whatever you say. The high-profile players who have left in the last 24 hours don't have what it takes to play EVE -- well- known players like Kyle and Ivory. /sarcasm

You know why they left, dude. Everyone knows why they all left. Trying to spin it as if they're the bad guys just makes you look really bad, yourself. In fact it looks downright trashy considering that all of them have gone out of their way to leave graciously and to not sell their former alliance out. You should have really stopped while you were ahead.

So anyway, I look forward to moving back to Fade on deployment. I already have one ship parked in O1Y! Maybe I'll run into you there, eh?

> anyone willing to give me like a 5 min politics crash course?

> grr goons, lowsec is full of elitist sh*s, all roads lead to the bittervet pl
Poopicus Butts
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#207 - 2016-04-08 12:46:41 UTC
The earlier posts in this thread just put the biggest smile on my face
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#208 - 2016-04-08 12:47:16 UTC
Trudeaux Margaret wrote:
Sure, whatever you say. The high-profile players who have left in the last 24 hours don't have what it takes to play EVE -- well- known players like Kyle and Ivory. /sarcasm

You know why they left, dude. Everyone knows why they all left. Trying to spin it as if they're the bad guys just makes you look really bad, yourself. In fact it looks downright trashy considering that all of them have gone out of their way to leave graciously and to not sell their former alliance out. You should have really stopped while you were ahead.

So anyway, I look forward to moving back to Fade on deployment. I already have one ship parked in O1Y! Maybe I'll run into you there, eh?
Whatever way you swing it, if you are leaving an alliance because times get tough and you suffer some losses, you don't have what it takes to be an EVE player. I'm not trying to spin it as anything other than what it is, you're the one trying to pretend that because some leaders left that the entire rest of the alliance is screwed. It very well may be we won't survive this as an alliance, but that's nowhere close to a given and there are still plenty of people that will fight to the end.

And honestly, if and when we move back to fade, I don't expect you to still be there. Your alliance really is a renamed BNI, and if you weren't blue to groups like NC and TEST, they'd rip you to pieces in seconds. I fully expect to be fighting one of them, not steamrolling you.

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Poopicus Butts
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#209 - 2016-04-08 12:53:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Poopicus Butts
Lucas Kell wrote:

And honestly, if and when we move back to fade, I don't expect you to still be there. Your alliance really is a renamed BNI, and if you weren't blue to groups like NC and TEST, they'd rip you to pieces in seconds. I fully expect to be fighting one of them, not steamrolling you.



Are you honestly using the "I...if you weren't b...blue with that big alliance we'd crush y...you!" argument while being in the clusterfuck coalition?
Eli Apol
Definitely a nullsec alt
#210 - 2016-04-08 12:59:02 UTC
Did I miss the post where SMA relocated to Egypt? Cuz they all seem to be in da Nile

but what would I know, I'm just a salvager
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#211 - 2016-04-08 13:01:45 UTC
Jesus, you can almost taste the desperation. The further we advance (and not just militarily, I enjoyed my 1st northern "Mining/Ratting up indexes" op last night, I forgot how much guristas jamming sucks lol) they more delusional 'they' get (well, some of 'they', it seems the smarter "they's are abandoning ship already).

The 1st great war I fought in (when I was in Raiden and we helped destroy to original NC) 6-7 years ago wasn't NEARLY this damn fun.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#212 - 2016-04-08 13:03:29 UTC
Poopicus Butts wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
And honestly, if and when we move back to fade, I don't expect you to still be there. Your alliance really is a renamed BNI, and if you weren't blue to groups like NC and TEST, they'd rip you to pieces in seconds. I fully expect to be fighting one of them, not steamrolling you.
Are you honestly using the "I...if you weren't b...blue with that big alliance we'd crush y...you!" argument while being in the clusterfuck coalition?
Nope, first off the clusterfuck coalition doesn't exist. Secondly, I'm just stating it as it is. It's a well advertised view that following this war MBC are going to stop being blue to each other, at which point they have to realistically be able to hold space against their attackers, which they've shown they would be unable to do.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#213 - 2016-04-08 13:08:03 UTC
Poopicus Butts wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:

And honestly, if and when we move back to fade, I don't expect you to still be there. Your alliance really is a renamed BNI, and if you weren't blue to groups like NC and TEST, they'd rip you to pieces in seconds. I fully expect to be fighting one of them, not steamrolling you.



Are you honestly using the "I...if you weren't b...blue with that big alliance we'd crush y...you!" argument while being in the clusterfuck coalition?



lol

I was on an op to coat hanger a CSAA night before last, and watched the intense and unbelievable spectacle of Imperium guys complaining about our blobbing in local.

Imperpium. The biggest blob in the history of EVE....

Complaining about blobbling.

From Imperium.....


......



Oddly, when I was in NC. and Goons (with hired PL help) forcibly ejected us from the exact same north that MBC is attacking now by using superior numbers, I fail to recall many CfC complaints about the dishonorable practice of blobbing.....
Eli Apol
Definitely a nullsec alt
#214 - 2016-04-08 13:15:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Eli Apol
MBC would reform at the drop of a hat if CFC looked like moving back into the North.

We're not even blue to each other just following not shooting neuts whilst in CFC space (unless they aggress us first *cough* Spectre *cough*).

Also remember that CFC has pissed off pretty much all of these groups individually in their own way and we're not exactly suffering isk losses so even the IWI funding is irrelevant now (although it was definitely a necessary catalyst to get this started).

I've heard talk that Burn Deklein might become an annual thing because it's so much fun.

but what would I know, I'm just a salvager
Aineko Macx
#215 - 2016-04-08 13:15:37 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
It's a well advertised view that following this war MBC are going to stop being blue to each other, at which point they have to realistically be able to hold space against their attackers, which they've shown they would be unable to do.

A dynamic 0.0 certainly is better than the static and stagnant bloc the CFC is and the blocs before it were.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#216 - 2016-04-08 13:15:58 UTC
Eli Apol wrote:
Did I miss the post where SMA relocated to Egypt? Cuz they all seem to be in da Nile
You me because some of us don't conform the propaganda on reddit and don't actually consider SMA dead yet? Alliances can lose quite a lot and not collapse you know. TEST lost basically everything, died on it's ass and yet now is back. If believing SMA is strong enough to survive hard times is considered denial by randoms on the forum, I'm OK with that.

Jenn aSide wrote:
I was on an op to coat hanger a CSAA night before last, and watched the intense and unbelievable spectacle of Imperium guys complaining about our blobbing in local.

Imperpium. The biggest blob in the history of EVE....

Complaining about blobbling.

From Imperium.....
Aside from his post not actually being representative of what I actually posted, for some reason you don't see the irony in a bunch of people who have complained about blobbing and blue doughnuts for several years using those exact same tactics now CCP have shifted the mechanics in their favour too? Strange that. By strange I of course mean completely predictable.

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Trudeaux Margaret
University of Caille
#217 - 2016-04-08 13:19:09 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Poopicus Butts wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
And honestly, if and when we move back to fade, I don't expect you to still be there. Your alliance really is a renamed BNI, and if you weren't blue to groups like NC and TEST, they'd rip you to pieces in seconds. I fully expect to be fighting one of them, not steamrolling you.
Are you honestly using the "I...if you weren't b...blue with that big alliance we'd crush y...you!" argument while being in the clusterfuck coalition?
Nope, first off the clusterfuck coalition doesn't exist. Secondly, I'm just stating it as it is. It's a well advertised view that following this war MBC are going to stop being blue to each other, at which point they have to realistically be able to hold space against their attackers, which they've shown they would be unable to do.


You appear to be confused. I think you need to face up to what the point of this war is.

For most groups involved, it's not to capture and hold your sov. It's simply to burn you all out of your sov.

Who will take the space in the wake of the war? Not the remnants of SMA, that's for sure, because SMA of all alliances absolutely can't hold sov on their own -- not without Goon intervention. This has been amply demonstrated. 1000 people online; 50 of them turn out for fleets. That's not going to work out for you. Roll

Who will take the space is anyone's guess. It will be interesting to watch.

> anyone willing to give me like a 5 min politics crash course?

> grr goons, lowsec is full of elitist sh*s, all roads lead to the bittervet pl
Eli Apol
Definitely a nullsec alt
#218 - 2016-04-08 13:19:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Eli Apol
The 'propaganda' on reddit...is leaked logs from your own alliance chat. We don't even need to make gifs anymore.


e: For your edification:

http://pastebin.com/gj9RHP7u < Goons skymarshals discussing their linemembers.
http://pastebin.com/cv88r5VL < SMA alliance chat discussing the loss of leadership.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#219 - 2016-04-08 13:23:25 UTC
Aineko Macx wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
It's a well advertised view that following this war MBC are going to stop being blue to each other, at which point they have to realistically be able to hold space against their attackers, which they've shown they would be unable to do.

A dynamic 0.0 certainly is better than the static and stagnant bloc the CFC is and the blocs before it were.
I agree, but the current mechanics won't generate that. The biggest groups will always be able to stomp through any smaller groups at will. Literally the only thing allowing smaller alliances to hold space is the lack of desire to stomp all over their space. I'd much rather see a system where lots of small groups held, used and defended space because they actually want to use it rather that a system that's simply so cumbersome to deal with that the only people attacking sov are people who don't want it.

Eli Apol wrote:
MBC would reform at the drop of a hat if CFC looked like moving back into the North.
I doubt that, but even if it were the case then that still makes you a coalition it just means you have an open PvP policy during peacetime.

Eli Apol wrote:
Also remember that CFC has pissed off pretty much all of these groups individually in their own way and we're not exactly suffering isk losses so even the IWI funding is irrelevant now (although it was definitely a necessary catalyst to get this started).
You're not suffering ISK losses? Someone let sKB know their killboard is broken.

Eli Apol wrote:
I've heard talk that Burn Deklein might become an annual thing because it's so much fun.
How can it become an annual thing if you're kicking goons out of Deklein?

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#220 - 2016-04-08 13:29:42 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Imperpium blobbling

this is the funniest damn thing to say out loud