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How to load Fighters in a SuperCarrier?

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Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-04-05 23:07:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Buzz Orti
I am flying a Wyvern (with just under 16 Injectors) and I can't find out how to load Fighters.

Do I need a ship assembly array, or some other structure to do it?


What is the trick?

Do I need 2 carriers ship maintenance bay or what?

Isn't the super cap too big to work with that fitting system?



I can add screenshots, and I'm also recording with Bandicam and a mic (although the mic only works with lots of echo).

I managed to load 2 fighters jettisoned nearby , in the Fleet Hangar.

However, I don't know how to load them in the fighter bay from there.
Is there another way?
Don't they have to be in the Fighter bay before they can be launched?


Edit:
I now have 6 at 6,000 m^3 out of 50,000 m^3 capacity in the Fleet Hangar.
However, they will not move from there to the Fighter Bay, or launch, or jettison.


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Edit 2:

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/POS_Structures#Capital_Ship_Maintenance_Array

Is is the Capital Ship Maintenace Array that lets SuperCarrier load Fighters in the Fighter Bay?

Restrictions: null-sec with system sovereignty
Requires: Supercapital Construction Facilities Infrastructure Upgrade
??

The Capital Ship Maintenance Array (CSMA) is a larger version of the SMA only useful in player controlled null-sec. It only uses power and can be used/accessed even if the POS is reinforced



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Edit 3:
I was just informed that it can be done from another Ship Maintenance Bay, or a Mobile Depot.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#2 - 2016-04-06 02:39:37 UTC
OMG Buzz. You need to sell your ship asap.

If you have to ask questions like this in a forum, you don't know enough about that ship to even own it yet.

I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm trying to save you a huge loss.

Not even going to answer the fighter question...
Please sell that ship.
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-04-06 03:04:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Buzz Orti
RavenPaine wrote:
OMG Buzz. You need to sell your ship asap.

If you have to ask questions like this in a forum, you don't know enough about that ship to even own it yet.

I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm trying to save you a huge loss.

Not even going to answer the fighter question...
Please sell that ship.

This is not a sell order post, but how much?


Edit:
Only problem is, the Mobile Depot cannot be used by fleet member, and,
the supercarrier cannot scoop it from space.
It also cannot buy it since it cannot dock at station.


Edit 2:
I had to leave the ship and get an Ibis to go buy another Mobile Depot with the SuperCarrier pilot.
Those devices can only be launched for self on the test server.
Then, once ship fitting services are selected and , opened, the fighters were able to be moved to the fighter bay (after ejecting from ship and boarding ship).
The ibis can then be scooped to ship maintenance bay.
I also tried to scoop a fleet member, but ship with cargo other charges cannot be scooped to ship maintenance bay.

I am now learning light fighter , heavy fighter and support fighter (around 4 hours) to fit them in and make them ready to launch.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2016-04-06 05:33:46 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Is this legit? This can't be... no. No. No.

Dude... sell the Supercap and get yourself a regular cap. Or mothball the Supercap for a while.
Don't fly it until you have joined a more established low/null-sec group and learned from their capital pilots.


I'm serious. What you have done is the equivalent of someone who just got their driver's permit trying to drive a top-of-the-line tank.
There is more to that "tank" than simply driving it. There is a whole bunch of logistics behind it that make it viable for combat. And that logistics involves other people.
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#5 - 2016-04-06 05:54:22 UTC
Tell you what, I'll fleet up with you to teach you how to fly it properly.

A signature :o

Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#6 - 2016-04-06 07:22:52 UTC
*popcorn*

seriously Buzz, the best advice you can be given in this situation has been given: Sell The [REDACTED] Supercarrier already.

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura

Gnadolin
Space Pioneers
#7 - 2016-04-06 08:05:36 UTC
You all do realise he is talking about Sisi?

Trying it out there to have these questions Answered before he gets one on Tq?

So:
Drones can only be put into a dronebay with the help of a fitting service of either a nearby structure or an other ship with ship maintainance bay in your fleet (sitting within 5km of you)
This rule applies to all ships, not only supercarriers, but you may have not noticed before because you were mostly using stations to fit your ships with drones i assume?
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#8 - 2016-04-06 09:29:18 UTC
Gnadolin wrote:
You all do realise he is talking about Sisi

possibly not since he's talking about using mass skill injectors......

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

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Gnadolin
Space Pioneers
#9 - 2016-04-06 13:10:54 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
Gnadolin wrote:
You all do realise he is talking about Sisi

possibly not since he's talking about using mass skill injectors......


Wich were gifted to Accounts on Sisi for Capital Change Testing
Scotsman Howard
S0utherN Comfort
#10 - 2016-04-06 14:11:45 UTC
Someone run a locator on this guy yet?
Keebler Wizard
Skew The Suits
#11 - 2016-04-06 15:14:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Keebler Wizard
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
Gnadolin wrote:
You all do realise he is talking about Sisi

possibly not since he's talking about using mass skill injectors......

Do you even Sisi bro? You can buy injectors/extractors on the regular, with tons of generated isk.

You guys are all bad and you should feel bad. While the OP is a bit vague about this being on the test server, anyone with half a brain would know they gave out injectors and supers/titans on SiSi and hes clearly testing there.

Do you really think someone on the real server would muck around with mobile depos and ibis's if they even had access to one of these ships?

And he says fighter bay. Show me where on the live server it says fighter bay. Making off topic posts to insult the OP when you guys are the true idiots.

Back on topic : Yes OP, it makes sense the fighters worked like drones before in that they need a 'fitting service' to be loaded and unloaded from other bays. (Does scoop to fighter hangar still exist?)
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#12 - 2016-04-06 16:28:46 UTC
Scotsman Howard wrote:
Someone run a locator on this guy yet?

Yes. He was in high sec.
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-04-06 22:00:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Buzz Orti
Keebler Wizard wrote:
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
Gnadolin wrote:
You all do realise he is talking about Sisi

possibly not since he's talking about using mass skill injectors......

Do you even Sisi bro? You can buy injectors/extractors on the regular, with tons of generated isk.

You guys are all bad and you should feel bad. While the OP is a bit vague about this being on the test server, anyone with half a brain would know they gave out injectors and supers/titans on SiSi and hes clearly testing there.

Do you really think someone on the real server would muck around with mobile depos and ibis's if they even had access to one of these ships?

And he says fighter bay. Show me where on the live server it says fighter bay. Making off topic posts to insult the OP when you guys are the true idiots.

Back on topic : Yes OP, it makes sense the fighters worked like drones before in that they need a 'fitting service' to be loaded and unloaded from other bays. (Does scoop to fighter hangar still exist?)

Yes, it's on SiSi and considering I could buy one for around 100.00 ISK which is an absurd amount (not to say ridiculous, as if on reddit, and no, I'm not recruiting) , you refused to give me a reasonable quote to your own offer (twice, in 2 offers that is).
+ Yes, it was in High-sec, and yes, I do have a cyno, and yes I found where to jump it in low-sec, but it's kind of fun in high-sec.

There was also a Ragnarok which I looted right next to Jita IV-4, oh within 100 km or so...

There is probably a scoop to Fighter Bay, but, those fighters have to be "flying" in space for them to be scooped.
They can only be brought to one of the 2 other bays when jettisoned.

Also, since a Wyvern is not a carrier (it is a superC), I cannot load drones in the Fighter Bay.
Also, I have 3 other SuperC (for free, times 2 on 2 accounts) and 4 titans , 8 total.

Also, there is no more Fighter Bomber, as those may now be Heavy Fighters.
Those Heavy Fighters are shown as of 2 types, as are the Light Fighters (2 other types).
One is long range, and I forgot the other, I took screenshot.
The light fighters are space control, or something to that effect, and assault.
Support Fighters web and so on, I think one is Energy neutralizer.

I can't wait to try tomorrow morning before work.
There were around 250 people on SiSi.

The other pilot flown a Sigil with 6 Expanded Cargohold and only had space for 6 fighters which are 1,000 m^3 each.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#14 - 2016-04-07 02:10:32 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Keebler Wizard wrote:
Do you really think someone on the real server would muck around with mobile depos and ibis's if they even had access to one of these ships?

...

...

... is that a serious question?



But I will grant you... it does make more sense that the OP is doing all this on the Test Server.
I guess I am a bit jaded.
Amanda Chan
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-04-07 02:37:11 UTC
Hazing the guy trying to learn new mechanics aside, you cannot refit, load drones into tubes, etc without somebody having a ship maintenance bay, array or something that allows you to refit nearby. Since as you have found out, supercarrers and titans cannot dock normally.

Fortunately by the time you realistically get into a super on tranquality, fat wallet aside, XL citadels should be released so you'll be able to dock into that.(Assuming your in an alliance that's got a fat wallet for that 700 bil bpo/put a few up).

If you swing a fat wallet and get one before then, get ready to be a pos queen unless you plan on using a XL SMA(tell no one this and lock off that pos from everybody you can. Note directors and up can still access it so you may want to consider a holding corp of your own if your alliance allows this if you're in a corp of poors) or buy/inject a super sitter toon.
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2016-04-07 03:04:12 UTC
Amanda Chan wrote:
Hazing the guy trying to learn new mechanics aside, you cannot refit, load drones into tubes, etc without somebody having a ship maintenance bay, array or something that allows you to refit nearby. Since as you have found out, supercarrers and titans cannot dock normally.

Fortunately by the time you realistically get into a super on tranquality, fat wallet aside, XL citadels should be released so you'll be able to dock into that.(Assuming your in an alliance that's got a fat wallet for that 700 bil bpo/put a few up).

If you swing a fat wallet and get one before then, get ready to be a pos queen unless you plan on using a XL SMA(tell no one this and lock off that pos from everybody you can. Note directors and up can still access it so you may want to consider a holding corp of your own if your alliance allows this if you're in a corp of poors) or buy/inject a super sitter toon.

You mean , they might try to steal from me.
There are different level of attempted theft.

I knew that SuperCarrier and Titan did not dock.

I saw a Palladium too, but, I don't have any corporations able to get over the smallest citadel. I also don't have this kind of relation yet, so I might never dock it there.

Perhaps XL SMA are now called CSMA...
I do have 2 corps already, and it does not justify having a carrier , much less supercarrier , yet.
Even with no one else in those corps (up to 8 corps for 2 coalitions), I still have my shares dealt with to negate the risks you mention.
It would be easier to get a Carrier with Injectors, but I didn't test how many injectors it would take yet.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

Keebler Wizard
Skew The Suits
#17 - 2016-04-07 13:28:52 UTC
If you are truly interested, start with a carrier. They are very fun, should be even more fun with the re balance, and the cost can be kept down when you use insurance. (thankfully they can dock). Few (hundred) months in an archon and you might just be ready for super caps.
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2016-04-07 21:25:09 UTC
Keebler Wizard wrote:
If you are truly interested, start with a carrier. They are very fun, should be even more fun with the re balance, and the cost can be kept down when you use insurance. (thankfully they can dock). Few (hundred) months in an archon and you might just be ready for super caps.

Where can they dock?
And a hundred month is 8.3 years.
The insurance on a SuperCarrier is over 2 billion, almost 3 billion, and covers over 8 billion.

I cannot afford a Carrier yet, as I just bought a JF pilot on the bazaar and I still can't afford the raising JF ship price.
It was around 5b for one and now it's around 8b.

Besides, I have no use for it.
I cannot safely fly a carrier without an escort.
Even my own escort of dual client pilots won't be enough because that it's too hard to control.
Plus, it's even worst to lose a fleet than to lose a ship.

I am testing the SuperC on Singularity and I don't know if Carriers are for sale at 100 ISK there, though they may be.
I would have the skills to fly one.
I could test ratting in it in null-sec.
I wouldn't be surprised that the tank is not enough.
I also nevre tried the Dreads yet either.

Also, I don't know how the Carrier fighter works, and they used to be able to fly other drones.
I guess it may be mixed SuperCarrier and the other drone bay.

The screenshots look good though, and I will post them.
It's nice to see the interface for the SuperCarrier fighter.
There are also 3 squadron types.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#19 - 2016-04-10 20:15:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Bumblefck
Buzz Orti-Lightyear - To Supercapitals...and Beyond!



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e: I love you Buzz, never change :)

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2016-04-10 20:27:44 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Buzz Orti-Lightyear - To Trollery...and Beyond!



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What does that have to do with
"How to load Fighters in a SuperCarrier?"
the title of the thread in this Ships & Modules forum.


I'm going to sleep, I made just around over 300m today.
I still have other things to do before work tomorrow, and ... more current attacks to deal with.
I will try to skip a few months after this term, but it may be my first time that I do earn a PLEx from ingame income to cover for 30 days.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

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