Intergalactic Summit

Why is everyone so afraid of a little chaos? Empires grow, they make enemies and the moment they show weakness those enemies exploit them and then empires fall. This will continue as long as we keep organizing into large centralized coalitions. Life is in motion, the universe transforms from one moment to next, that is chaos and it's the natural order of things. Fighting it is futile in my experience, best to just go along for the ride.

In regards to this conflict, do I think whoever ends up on top will make much of a difference? Not really, but in my mind smaller groups keeping each other in check is preferable to one large group monopolizing whole regions of space.

It's not an ideal situation, but I doubt we'll ever be able to have long-standing peace in nullsec until maybe we capsuleers have sated our collective blood lust after a few centuries of immortality and learn to embrace our similarities rather than our differences. Maybe then we would be able to live together in peaceful cooperation, but that's just a dream for now. Until then war and the felling of giants are just business as usual.

As for Nauplius' advice to the Imperium, I fail to see how purging hundreds if not thousands of pilots from their ranks would be strategically sound.

I am not afraid of freedom. And I suggest everyone else to not be afraid of it.

Yes, desplite what I tell about freedom, I am not afraid of it.
I despiste it.
And I fight against it.

By itself freedom is just a terminal state of the system, where all bonds are destroyed and all parts move freely. No laws, no hindrances, no connections. Pure freedom.

And I actually was incorrect when I said I fight against freedom. It is just a physical concept and by itself it bears no sentiment. Behind freedom there are just numbers, formulae, equations...

Yes, freedom is inhuman, dangerous and destructive concept. But it is not evil.
Evil are peoples, who FIGHT for freedom, who made freedom their ideal.

And it is against them we must fight. Them we must shun, detain and destroy. They are our enemy and they are the main threat to civilization and civilized life.

I was about to make this reference, thank you.

Putting aside the reality that Providence is anything but holy, there is a real truth in your words. The region is possibly the freest place in New Eden, with laws that benefit all and condemn none save those that break those laws. The corporations that guarantee those laws are co-operative through mutual respect and desire to protect what they have built, rather than an over-reaching authority figure demanding compliance. Citizens do not have to bend the knee, or believe in a deity, to live and prosper there.

It is a shining example of what the Amarr Empire might become, if it relinquished its unwholesome desire to brutalise those who do not think as it deems they must. I congratulate you and yours.

Now that's an interesting theory. "Instinctive" implies biological underpinnings rather than socialized ones.

Well ... there are basically two neurological moral frameworks: one based primarily on loyalty, the other on fairness. It seems like it should take both to make a working society (the first is maybe overly-tolerant of even the most profound flaws; the second doesn't lend itself to organized ... well, anything), but it could be that some genetic backgrounds lend themselves more to one than the other.

Certainly, both Caldari and Amarr have a strong cultural respect for authority.

On the other hand, I don't actually think knee-jerk loyalty to the Federation is very different from knee-jerk loyalty to the State or Empire, neurologically speaking. Maybe someone should do a study?



Respectfully, I think petty warlordism lends itself to clannishness and even outright xenophobia. It means the odds are high that a stranger is there to do you harm-- and that, if you are a stranger, any locals who detect you will try to murder you. That ends up with the opposite of diversity.

If it evolves naturally into anything, it's probably tyranny and despotism, as big fish eat little fish, and grow bigger still. Maybe that eventually develops into democracy, if anyone really wants to give it a swing.



Maybe that's true-- if there's already a strong enough civilization in place to survive the metamorphosis. If you end up falling back into what is basically a dark age, I don't think democracy emerges out of that.

A relatively stable civilization seems like a prerequisite to democracy-- which is a neat dynamic, considering that one of the primary outsider critiques of democracy is that it's inherently unstable. It might explain why democracies are historically (and presently) so rare.

Edit:

As a side note, actual, biological evolution doesn't really tend "toward" anything in particular. It's a process of selection among random mutations; helpful mutations (in context) tend to be maintained, harmful mutations (also in context) tend to fail. That makes it sound like Nature is picking and choosing, but actually it's just cause and effect.

Evolution has no end goal, and it has no "better," except for how well a particular genetic pattern survives and reproduces in such-and-such a set of circumstances. It doesn't go "up," only forward. Any "up" that might occur in the process is a happy (?) accident.

We have already been assured victory by the True Voice of God in New Eden, the Harbinger of Faith His Holiness Maximillian Singularity VI, First of his Name, Pope of New Eden, Paragon of Virtue, Bane of Jamyl Sarum, and the One True Emperor of the Holy Amarr Empire.

Ave imperator.

Must it? I mean, really? I'd think that if it were really an absolute priority then someone would have been fired or killed by now for failing to do it.

You dissing my glasses?

Shush, you walking fashion disaster.

Disgusting.

I have wrinkles around my eyes. My father has it. My grandfather has it. By all accounts, my great grandfather had it too. I changed my clone but nope. I still have the wrinkles.

It's genetic, apparently.

So I wear these cool shades.