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To Mr. J. Syagrius, concerning his words about Caldari POWs
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#121 - 2016-04-03 11:05:06 UTC
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
Nick Bete wrote:
You guys ought to know by now the only way to win this game against Kimmy is not to play (argue with her).

As a teacher once told me, "Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."


Among the agricultural community*, there is a much more apposite version of this saying:

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."


[* Sadly, in modern times the noble title of 'farmer' has been corrupted to mean something quite shameful.]

I prefer just to shoot pigs down instead of wrestling with them. Kill them fast enough before they realize what fights them.
I mean... with gallente swines.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#122 - 2016-04-03 14:06:54 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

When you realize gallenteans are stupid like Nick Bete, would you consider anything else except taking down them by violence?
Understandable I guess, though you do understand that just because the most vocal people act a certain way there are more than likely plenty who don't right?

Diana Kim wrote:
Can you list yourself the topic to find out , or maybe I should ask some peoples to explicitly write here special for you?
Why would/should I look for examples relating to you where I doubt there are any? Also tied into this how often do I change the whole topic of a thread and receive any support? Well to answer that how often do I change the whole topic of a thread? Comment on it, (such as the cake thing) ya I do. Start them? Not that often. I remember when I was young seeing kids selling fruit juice in their neighborhood, who has more loyal customers? The kids selling fruit juice or Quafe? Think you have the market tapped on changing topics, selling juice is just a hobby for me.

Diana Kim wrote:
No. And I wonder now if you can get at least ANYTHING right at all.

Well, atleast I tried understanding "another culture..."
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#123 - 2016-04-03 14:29:11 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

When you realize gallenteans are stupid like Nick Bete, would you consider anything else except taking down them by violence?
Understandable I guess, though you do understand that just because the most vocal people act a certain way there are more than likely plenty who don't right?

I see what they do and make conclusions based on facts and not on assumptions about existence or absence of something I haven't seen.
I simply extrapolate observed behavior of visible gallentes on their whole population.
I am not a primitive minmatar savage, I am Caldari officer and can't allow myself to make conclusions on unreliable data.

Deitra Vess wrote:

Diana Kim wrote:
Can you list yourself the topic to find out , or maybe I should ask some peoples to explicitly write here special for you?
Why would/should I look for examples relating to you where I doubt there are any?

Simply because it was YOUR ridiculously idiotic assumption about me.
And since you can't prove your words about me, I don't need bothering myself refuting this crap. Poke me when you will have something more solid about me. Otherwise your words are just meaningless vibrations of the air.

Deitra Vess wrote:

Well, atleast I tried understanding "another culture..."

Change words "tried understanding" into "failed to understand", then it will be true.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#124 - 2016-04-03 14:34:28 UTC
Failing requires trying...
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#125 - 2016-04-03 14:36:50 UTC
It is the result that does matter, not the effort.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Omega Jovakko
Doomheim
#126 - 2016-04-03 18:52:22 UTC
Fairly confident that effort has some factor in it, you can use absolutely no effort at all and end up failing (or in my case succeeding because i'm just awesome), when it comes to understanding a culture i'm More than confident it requires a deal of effort.

"Let them try and come. They've got 3 for every 1 of ours, it'll be a great time"
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#127 - 2016-04-03 18:55:48 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Rinai Vero wrote:

And yet here you are, posting on the IGS. Why don't you do yourself and the rest of us a favor and stop this "waste of time?"

Can't let gallentean lies to spread uncontested. If I won't reply someone who isn't smart enough might even believe you Shocked


What's amazing about this situation is that you have so little respect or credibility with anyone on this forum that your raving actually does more harm to the State than any number of gallente "lies" could ever do.

I can only imagine how disgusted true Caldari patriots are that you are their most visible representative on the IGS.

By all means, keep it up. You're the best Gallete propagandist here.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#128 - 2016-04-03 21:26:31 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:

What's amazing about this situation is that you have so little respect or credibility with anyone on this forum that your raving actually does more harm to the State than any number of gallente "lies" could ever do.

I can only imagine how disgusted true Caldari patriots are that you are their most visible representative on the IGS.

By all means, keep it up. You're the best Gallete propagandist here.

Someone like you talking about "raving", really?

You know, gallentean, you are insupportable and incorrigible person. You have been refusing facts that really anyone can test, and when I was pointing out on your obvious lies, you are simply insulting me, now even claiming I have 'little respect or credibility".

This is funny, Vero, since it was you, who was objecting well known fact publically, not me.

But I guess you have lost it so hard that insulting Caldari officer is the only thing that you have left. You are just like that dog, who barks on the train that passes by. You can keep barking as much as you want.

The train keeps going.

Glory to the State!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Omega Jovakko
Doomheim
#129 - 2016-04-03 21:53:15 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Rinai Vero wrote:

What's amazing about this situation is that you have so little respect or credibility with anyone on this forum that your raving actually does more harm to the State than any number of gallente "lies" could ever do.

I can only imagine how disgusted true Caldari patriots are that you are their most visible representative on the IGS.

By all means, keep it up. You're the best Gallete propagandist here.

Someone like you talking about "raving", really?

You know, gallentean, you are insupportable and incorrigible person. You have been refusing facts that really anyone can test, and when I was pointing out on your obvious lies, you are simply insulting me, now even claiming I have 'little respect or credibility".

This is funny, Vero, since it was you, who was objecting well known fact publically, not me.

But I guess you have lost it so hard that insulting Caldari officer is the only thing that you have left. You are just like that dog, who barks on the train that passes by. You can keep barking as much as you want.

The train keeps going.

Glory to the State!


You know what this argument needs?


More cake

"Let them try and come. They've got 3 for every 1 of ours, it'll be a great time"
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#130 - 2016-04-03 22:40:21 UTC
Omega Jovakko wrote:
You know what this argument needs?

To end.

“Here also are the heralds of his praise."
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#131 - 2016-04-03 22:52:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
James Syagrius wrote:
Omega Jovakko wrote:
You know what this argument needs?

To end.

It has actually ended even on second page https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6414375#post6414375 , as I have received answer on my question regarding credibility of Mr. Syagrius.

You gallentes and your cronies should accept it already and stop distracting me with your further idiotic lies and rants about us. Whatever you say won't change the fact.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#132 - 2016-04-03 23:27:17 UTC
You HAVE been answering us, and don't call me a federation cronie, they can fight their own battles, I just third party....
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#133 - 2016-04-03 23:36:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Deitra Vess wrote:
You HAVE been answering us, and don't call me a federation cronie, they can fight their own battles, I just third party....

1. I have asked you already to stop speaking with me, if you can't hold proper discussion.
2. You have been appearing in this conversation to insult Caldari officer.
3. If you are against Caldari, it means you are on Gallente side of the conflict.
4. Since this conversation was initially not about the conflict, but negligence of easily verifiable fact of certain now discredited gallentean speaker, you were standing not only against Caldari, but on the side of ignorance and forum trolls.

Well done then, Vess?..

Oh, and of course:

5. I can't let lies of gallenteans and their... ughmm... "third party" allies to stand uncontested.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Omega Jovakko
Doomheim
#134 - 2016-04-03 23:56:08 UTC
So wait does this mean I'm gallante? Because on my birth certificate it says I'm registered caldari.

Fite me

"Let them try and come. They've got 3 for every 1 of ours, it'll be a great time"
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#135 - 2016-04-04 00:04:57 UTC
OK. Do you know where to find me, or should I send directions?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#136 - 2016-04-04 00:06:57 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
You HAVE been answering us, and don't call me a federation cronie, they can fight their own battles, I just third party....

1. I have asked you already to stop speaking with me, if you can't hold proper discussion.
2. You have been appearing in this conversation to insult Caldari officer.
3. If you are against Caldari, it means you are on Gallente side of the conflict.
4. Since this conversation was initially not about the conflict, but negligence of easily verifiable fact of certain now discredited gallentean speaker, you were standing not only against Caldari, but on the side of ignorance and forum trolls.

Well done then, Vess?..

Oh, and of course:

5. I can't let lies of gallenteans and their... ughmm... "third party" allies to stand uncontested.

1. I've made many points (aka tried discussion), you didn't like the words coming out of my mouth and thus you don't consider it a proper discussion.
2. I have appeared in this discussion for many reasons, if it was to insult a Caldari officer, should one who holds more than a rank in the militia, in other words a privateer Navy (or for even further explaination, a PIRATE on a major power's payroll) they would know it.
3. What happens on your side of the cluster isn't my problem. Nor is it some enemy by association to me. If you wish to find me a threat feel free to come to either Bosborgor or rarely Eram and take a shot at me don't think I'm wasting my time fighting my nonenemies.
4. My first post in this thread (post #11) was not even aimed at you and was on topic, don't blame me for going on alternate tangets much like many other people in this thread and others. Ignorance maybe, trolling not my original intention.
5. You should try it for sake of your sanity. Sharks are attracted to the smell of blood after all.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#137 - 2016-04-04 00:20:34 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:

4. My first post in this thread (post #11) was not even aimed at you and was on topic, don't blame me for going on alternate tangets much like many other people in this thread and others. Ignorance maybe, trolling not my original intention.

I'll just leave it here.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6418878#post6418878

As for other things, I don't feel need to chase every lying loudmouth from IGS, I'd prefer killing those, who can actually do something hostile against us except impotent barking on the forum. If you really want to get at me though, maybe it's you who should visit me and try to say it all in my face. I'll gladly put you down on your face should you get courage to show up. In a ship or in person in station, I don't care.

Otherwise, I'd prefer you to simply... disappear. Stop wasting my time, tribal.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Omega Jovakko
Doomheim
#138 - 2016-04-04 00:22:45 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:

4. My first post in this thread (post #11) was not even aimed at you and was on topic, don't blame me for going on alternate tangets much like many other people in this thread and others. Ignorance maybe, trolling not my original intention.

I'll just leave it here.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6418878#post6418878

As for other things, I don't feel need to chase every lying loudmouth from IGS, I'd prefer killing those, who can actually do something hostile against us except impotent barking on the forum. If you really want to get at me though, maybe it's you who should visit me and try to say it all in my face. I'll gladly put you down on your face should you get courage to show up. In a ship or in person in station, I don't care.

Otherwise, I'd prefer you to simply... disappear. Stop wasting my time, tribal.


Question: Say hypothetically i had a desire to actually see you in person, and say things face to face, what station would that be at? I forgot to log the station in my HUD. There are a few kind words I have to share with you

"Let them try and come. They've got 3 for every 1 of ours, it'll be a great time"
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#139 - 2016-04-04 00:38:01 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:

4. My first post in this thread (post #11) was not even aimed at you and was on topic, don't blame me for going on alternate tangets much like many other people in this thread and others. Ignorance maybe, trolling not my original intention.

I'll just leave it here.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6418878#post6418878

As for other things, I don't feel need to chase every lying loudmouth from IGS, I'd prefer killing those, who can actually do something hostile against us except impotent barking on the forum. If you really want to get at me though, maybe it's you who should visit me and try to say it all in my face. I'll gladly put you down on your face should you get courage to show up. In a ship or in person in station, I don't care.

Otherwise, I'd prefer you to simply... disappear. Stop wasting my time, tribal.

Again, why would I go around chasing nonentities? Enjoy your side of the cluster, I much prefer my red skies thank you very much. Your the only one who appears to want some victory or something. I said it in the past and I'll say it again, if I wanted a fight, I know where you are and even have ships in your home station. What's the point of shooting you? My actual "hostile intent" has no connection to you or your own. You seem to have it for mine and me. Whether it has hostile intentions behind it or not, I'll call you or anyone else for that matter out if I feel it right. When has that not been the case?
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#140 - 2016-04-04 00:40:13 UTC
Ichoriya, omega, Caldari Navy station in Ichoriya.