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To Mr. J. Syagrius, concerning his words about Caldari POWs

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#81 - 2016-04-01 22:45:40 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Osyn, don't talk about stupidity, that looks like a gurista who blames concord in piracy Lol

Not entirely sure the Gurista would be wrong. CONCORD takes our money then shoots us, if that's not piracy I don't know what is.

Yea, right. Because YOU violated the law. Typical gallente with substitution of terms.

Can't say I didn't expect this, your replies are easily predictable.

I also understand why you called me stupid. This is rather easy. You have a set of definitions in your mind, implanted by gallente propaganda, and I simply refuse to accept these terms. I use logic to crash your world view, and you cling to your brainwashing calling me "stupid" for that, refusing to use your brain and believing I simply don't know what I am talking about.

Yes, I understand your point of view. And as I have said it elsewhere, the more I understand gallente, the stronger I despise them.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#82 - 2016-04-01 23:37:39 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Osyn, don't talk about stupidity, that looks like a gurista who blames concord in piracy Lol

Not entirely sure the Gurista would be wrong. CONCORD takes our money then shoots us, if that's not piracy I don't know what is.

Yea, right. Because YOU violated the law. Typical gallente with substitution of terms.

Can't say I didn't expect this, your replies are easily predictable.

I also understand why you called me stupid. This is rather easy. You have a set of definitions in your mind, implanted by gallente propaganda, and I simply refuse to accept these terms. I use logic to crash your world view, and you cling to your brainwashing calling me "stupid" for that, refusing to use your brain and believing I simply don't know what I am talking about.

Yes, I understand your point of view. And as I have said it elsewhere, the more I understand gallente, the stronger I despise them.

You know nothing about me, Diana Kim. To be completely honest, is why I play the fool quite a bit. With you however, I do it solely because I don't think you're worth the effort of being serious with as no matter what, you'll always find a reason for my opinions to be an insult, so why bother trying civility and skip right to the end result? As for CONCORD, the issue I have with them is that they only target capsuleers who violate the law. They did nothing when the Drifters invaded Amarr . They did nothing when the Drifters killed Jamyl Sarum. They continue to do nothing about Sansha, and this is the pira- err... police force of the cluster? Yeah, no.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#83 - 2016-04-01 23:54:38 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:

You know nothing about me, Diana Kim.

I know as much as you show, this is way more than nothing. Unlike you, gallenteans, I can observe, I can analyze and I can make conclusions.

Claudia Osyn wrote:

To be completely honest, is why I play the fool quite a bit.

It would be okay to play a fool for some sort of joke. But if you do it over and over again, you aren't "playing" fool. You are acting fool. And if you are acting fool, you are the fool.

Congratulations with your day once again, Osyn.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#84 - 2016-04-02 02:08:20 UTC
*sigh* you are a lost cause, Kimmy. I pity you.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Omega Jovakko
Doomheim
#85 - 2016-04-02 03:24:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Jovakko
I don't suppose we could just get the POW's back? Break some legs? Ask politely? Or since we all sign our lives away as part of our livelyhood do we just give up on them?

"Let them try and come. They've got 3 for every 1 of ours, it'll be a great time"

James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#86 - 2016-04-02 05:23:04 UTC
Omega Jovakko wrote:
I don't suppose we could just get the POW's back? Break some legs? Ask politely? Or since we all sign our lives away as part of our livelyhood do we just give up on them?

Well I'll be damned... a salient point.

I think Mr. Jovakko that many parties would be interested in a swap, though certainly not all.

Faction warfare attracts some fairly nasty personalities who are interested more in blood and plunder than advancing the interests of their professed faction.

But there are a few honorable organizations on both ‘sides’ who might be convinced to consider your suggestion, if they haven’t already.

Omega Jovakko
Doomheim
#87 - 2016-04-02 06:27:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Jovakko
James Syagrius wrote:
Omega Jovakko wrote:
I don't suppose we could just get the POW's back? Break some legs? Ask politely? Or since we all sign our lives away as part of our livelyhood do we just give up on them?

Well I'll be damned... a salient point.

I think Mr. Jovakko that many parties would be interested in a swap, though certainly not all.

Faction warfare attracts some fairly nasty personalities who are interested more in blood and plunder than advancing the interests of their professed faction.

But there are a few honorable organizations on both ‘sides’ who might be convinced to consider your suggestion, if they haven’t already.



So let me get this straight, this whole time there's been arguments about who has the most POW's, when a solution has been available all along in the form of "Hey, I happen to have so many valuable assets, why not share?"

Why are we still here? Hell i'll bring them myself if I have to, who do I speak to about getting this done?

"Let them try and come. They've got 3 for every 1 of ours, it'll be a great time"

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#88 - 2016-04-02 07:36:12 UTC
Omega Jovakko wrote:
I don't suppose we could just get the POW's back? Break some legs? Ask politely? Or since we all sign our lives away as part of our livelyhood do we just give up on them?

We actually can. If you want to help us, grab a codebreaker, grabs some guns, probe scanner and head to Black Rise.
No, of course we don't give up on them. They can and shall be rescued, the Navy already performs operations, and we, capsuleers, can and must help them.

Gallentean prisons must be demolished. And make sure that any gallentean ship that will appear there will meet its demise. Tags of these subhumans can be traded in Jita later for some nice isk too.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Omega Jovakko
Doomheim
#89 - 2016-04-02 08:10:04 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
[quote=Omega Jovakko] grab a codebreaker, grabs some guns, probe scanner and head to Black Rise.
No, of course we don't give up on them. They can and shall be rescued, the Navy already performs operations, and we, capsuleers, can and must help them.

Gallentean prisons must be demolished. And make sure that any gallentean ship that will appear there will meet its demise. Tags of these subhumans can be traded in Jita later for some nice isk too.


I know you're using words, they're just not words I hoped to hear.

"Let them try and come. They've got 3 for every 1 of ours, it'll be a great time"

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#90 - 2016-04-02 08:33:09 UTC
Omega Jovakko wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
[quote=Omega Jovakko] grab a codebreaker, grabs some guns, probe scanner and head to Black Rise.
No, of course we don't give up on them. They can and shall be rescued, the Navy already performs operations, and we, capsuleers, can and must help them.

Gallentean prisons must be demolished. And make sure that any gallentean ship that will appear there will meet its demise. Tags of these subhumans can be traded in Jita later for some nice isk too.


I know you're using words, they're just not words I hoped to hear.

I also use guns. And if you want to help us getting POWs from hands of these monsters, you should learn to use guns as well.
Remember: never talk to gallente, it is waste of time. Your words, promises and deals won't save these brave men and women from gallentean tortures.
Your guns will.
So, go there and do something.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#91 - 2016-04-02 09:22:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Diana Kim wrote:



Considering you aren't even blaming me in any certain thing I have committed, but stupidly claiming that I do these things, I can conclude that you have appeared here on the sole purpose of trolling and spewing your gallentean hatred at those who are better than you.

All other your rant is nothing but lie and trolling. Are you still that hurt that I pointed out at your cowardice after I have pushed away you from our system? That's quite impressive amount of bile and crap you spill out on forum at me becasue of that.

But keep in mind, gallentean. Whatever else lie you will say about me, that won't help me. Your destiny is to run or to die, because all gallentean lapdogs like you WILL DIE.

Glory to the State!


I did not blame you because I have no intention of making you admit anything or take responsibility for anything or turn you into a scapegoat for whatever misfortune that befalls me at any given moment.

Blame is used to make the target fix whatever mess that is lying around the place, whether the target is responsible for the mess or not. I will not do such thing, for I have no intention whatsoever of making you fix anything. Because you are incapable of fixing anything.

And the fact that you need to be blamed for anything makes me wonder greatly about your maturity. A man or woman who steps up to take responsibility does not need to be blamed. A man or woman who is capable of self-reflection does not need to be blamed, he or she is capable of realising his or her own mistakes by his or herself and take the necessary actions to correct their shortcomings.

You, however, are incapable of any of these. This is why you had to be blamed to be forced to see your error. And even then, you will continue to be blind to it, and you will keep making others blame you.

Me, I have no intention whatsoever to make you fix anything. You are just fine the way you are. We all need someone to poke and prod every so often, a reminder that no matter how much crap we got ourselves into, we *aren't* you.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#92 - 2016-04-02 13:43:59 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

You, however, are incapable of any of these. This is why you had to be blamed to be forced to see your error. And even then, you will continue to be blind to it, and you will keep making others blame you.

I am getting tired of gallentean trolls.

I wish there was a device that could make you unable to communicate after you ran from combat. Then we wouldn't have Egivands on forums. Aren't you disgusted yourself from amount of lies and crap you spill on ME because of YOUR failure, eh?

Or gallenteans with their petty loyal tribal lapdogs like you are simply used to live in crap like swines?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#93 - 2016-04-02 18:51:43 UTC
I hereby declare this thread dedicated to various confectionery and ignoring Kimmy. My this thread flourish in peace.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Omega Jovakko
Doomheim
#94 - 2016-04-02 19:37:51 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
I hereby declare this thread dedicated to various confectionery and ignoring Kimmy. My this thread flourish in peace.


Ms. Kim I know we're from the same state, but this made me laugh. Also I'm not lifting a weapon against someone who I am more than capable of negotiating with. That doesn't mean I can't use one.

"Let them try and come. They've got 3 for every 1 of ours, it'll be a great time"

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#95 - 2016-04-02 20:01:16 UTC
Omega, you may be on the same side, but notice how many others from the state are actively defending Diana? Unless the state is just a group of traitors to their own nation (as she has pointed out with many other, more vocal "krjin" or whatever "comrade" is in Naapani, I probably have it horribly wrong), there might be a reason for that.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#96 - 2016-04-02 21:05:04 UTC
None of this sounds like confectionery or ignoring Kimmy, I humbly ask that it be rectified at once.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Omega Jovakko
Doomheim
#97 - 2016-04-02 21:10:47 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Omega, you may be on the same side, but notice how many others from the state are actively defending Diana? Unless the state is just a group of traitors to their own nation (as she has pointed out with many other, more vocal "krjin" or whatever "comrade" is in Naapani, I probably have it horribly wrong), there might be a reason for that.


I hope I read your response correctly, as meaning can be lost in text, but I do believe in SOME caldari methods, I just believe if I already have a path laid out that seems effective, then I should take it, and save violence for if it fails. If this means I'm a traitor, then so be it, but I'd rather be labeled a traitor that got Caldari POW's home than a merciless pawn that blew up a facility to get to them

"Let them try and come. They've got 3 for every 1 of ours, it'll be a great time"

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#98 - 2016-04-02 21:17:05 UTC
Your referring to someone who doesn't have diplomacy in her arsenal. Well unless you consider diplomacy by the barrel of a gun solely being a fleshed out arsenal. Also, carrot cake..... Discuss.
Omega Jovakko
Doomheim
#99 - 2016-04-02 21:31:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Jovakko
Just goes to show you the opinions of others

"Let them try and come. They've got 3 for every 1 of ours, it'll be a great time"

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#100 - 2016-04-02 21:41:20 UTC
You don't like carrot cake?