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Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#121 - 2016-03-27 20:58:26 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:

No, you dont get it. Let the gankers be there. I still moved through the system several times without problems. They can´t be everywhere. Thats the game. I also stated somewhere else that it is a cool idea what they are trying to do there.

Just the method WHERE and HOW they do it.... is coward. I can deal with the fact but some other players just wont like it. Sorry, you guys just can´t do better.


Er, no Fred, wrong again.

You said quite clearly that Highsec should be 'safe'. It's difficult to reconcile that statement with your later one, apparently embracing the gankers and inviting them to share in your travels. Difficult to impossible, that is.

Look, you're coming over as quite disorganised in your thoughts. I don't think it's a problem of the language, although I do accept that having the Forums in English might disadvantage some posters.

Help us here; retire for a while and get your story straight. Your boasting about the 15 billion Isk you earned smacks somewhat of immaturity.

Tread warily in C&P; we take no prisoners here.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#122 - 2016-03-27 21:03:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Fred Kyong wrote:
Fact is, highsec should be safe.
That's your opinion, not a fact.

The fact of the matter is that CCP disagree with you, being the architects of Eve their word carries infinitely more weight than yours and can be regarded as fact.

HTFU, or GTFO.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#123 - 2016-03-27 21:21:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
Fact is, highsec should be safe.
That's your opinion, not a fact.

The fact of the matter is that CCP disagree with you, being the architects of Eve their word carries infinitely more weight than yours and can be regarded as fact.

HTFU, or GTFO.



You are right and I was writing this already. Maybe you get back some posts:

1) CCP has the right to make the rules
2) Members do have the right to pull their memberships

In the end, no one cares :)

Cheers
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#124 - 2016-03-27 21:41:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Ima Wreckyou
Your tears are amazing Fred! Are you interested in a mining permit? Look, it is very simple, you hauled illegal stuff unpermited trough our territory. You should not be surprized your ship exploded.

I know you think it is really clever to cry to CCP for help. In fact it's almost the same if you would cry to Hasbro if you lose at Monopoly. The real way to go is obviously to get better at EVE. The wrong way would be to cry more on the forums and show anyone how bad you are at the game.

P.S. where was anti-ganking?

Evil RatKid
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#125 - 2016-03-27 21:57:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Fred Kyong wrote:
1) CCP has the right to make the rules
Indeed, it's their universe and their rules.
Quote:
2) Members do have the right to pull their memberships
Nobody is saying otherwise; judging by dev comments in the past, CCP are fine with people, who don't like the game that they've produced, doing exactly that.
Quote:
In the end, no one cares :)

Cheers
Apparently you do, otherwise you wouldn't be posting in this thread.

If you don't like the product you are paying for, why do you keep paying for it?

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#126 - 2016-03-27 21:58:17 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
Fact is, highsec should be safe.
That's your opinion, not a fact.

The fact of the matter is that CCP disagree with you, being the architects of Eve their word carries infinitely more weight than yours and can be regarded as fact.

HTFU, or GTFO.



You are right and I was writing this already. Maybe you get back some posts:

1) CCP has the right to make the rules
2) Members do have the right to pull their memberships

In the end, no one cares :)

Cheers



Translation: I lose but I don't know how to extricate myself now that I'm balls deep in public opinion ****

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Giaus Felix
Doomheim
#127 - 2016-03-27 22:00:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Giaus Felix
Bumblefck wrote:
Translation: I lose but I don't know how to extricate myself now that I'm balls deep in public opinion ****
I have an excavator for hire, Fred can contact me for a quote.

I came for the spaceships, I stayed for the tears.
Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#128 - 2016-03-27 23:13:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Nothing personal, I just hate to see people murdering my native tongue. I speak several languages, albeit badly, and am always happy to accept corrections from native speakers, you should try the same.

"I could care less" is poor grammar, a somewhat controversial american idiom and an oxymoron all rolled in to one.


-off topic on

YOUR native tounge? :)

English is not YOUR language, Americans just borrowed it :) You do not even have a own language.

Other than that what could you have learned? 2 sentence of Spanish or French in HS when you ever made it there. Thats all :) Dont tell us stuff; stay on topic and get culture first :)

Fly safe.
-off topic off

Back to Topic and my suggestion for CCP if they ever want to change the mechanic:
-Bumping in high should just be allowed if the bumper gets damage and when done more as twice. 3rd bump -> Ship is destroyed.
-Or bumping should just not be possible at all in highsec

Problem solved
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#129 - 2016-03-27 23:27:42 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Nothing personal, I just hate to see people murdering my native tongue. I speak several languages, albeit badly, and am always happy to accept corrections from native speakers, you should try the same.

"I could care less" is poor grammar, a somewhat controversial american idiom and an oxymoron all rolled in to one.


-off topic on

YOUR native tounge? :)

English is not YOUR language, Americans just borrowed it :) You do not even have a own language.
Assumptions make you look stupid; I am British, not American; ergo English is my native tongue.

Quote:
Other than that what could you have learned? 2 sentence of Spanish or French in HS when you ever made it there. Thats all :) Dont tell us stuff; stay on topic and get culture first :)
I've lived all over Europe, both as a child and an adult, 12 years in Germany alone. I speak French, Spanish and German well enough to get by in those respective countries.

The only thing that you're achieving is to make yourself look like an immature fool.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#130 - 2016-03-27 23:29:23 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Nothing personal, I just hate to see people murdering my native tongue. I speak several languages, albeit badly, and am always happy to accept corrections from native speakers, you should try the same.

"I could care less" is poor grammar, a somewhat controversial american idiom and an oxymoron all rolled in to one.


-off topic on

YOUR native tounge? :)

English is not YOUR language, Americans just borrowed it :) You do not even have a own language.
Assumptions make you look stupid; I am British, not American; ergo English is my native tongue.

Quote:
Other than that what could you have learned? 2 sentence of Spanish or French in HS when you ever made it there. Thats all :) Dont tell us stuff; stay on topic and get culture first :)
I've lived all over Europe, both as a child and an adult, 12 years in Germany alone. I speak French, Spanish and German well enough to get by in those respective countries.

The only thing that you're achieving is to make yourself look like an immature fool.


Nothing personal. You are ok
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#131 - 2016-03-28 00:44:25 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Nothing personal, I just hate to see people murdering my native tongue. I speak several languages, albeit badly, and am always happy to accept corrections from native speakers, you should try the same.

"I could care less" is poor grammar, a somewhat controversial american idiom and an oxymoron all rolled in to one.


-off topic on

YOUR native tounge? :)

English is not YOUR language, Americans just borrowed it :) You do not even have a own language.
Assumptions make you look stupid; I am British, not American; ergo English is my native tongue.

Quote:
Other than that what could you have learned? 2 sentence of Spanish or French in HS when you ever made it there. Thats all :) Dont tell us stuff; stay on topic and get culture first :)
I've lived all over Europe, both as a child and an adult, 12 years in Germany alone. I speak French, Spanish and German well enough to get by in those respective countries.

The only thing that you're achieving is to make yourself look like an immature fool.


Nothing personal. You are ok

stop arguing, you get DEMOLISHED each time and try to avoid our counters to your "suggestions"
make yourself a favor and just leave C&P forever

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Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#132 - 2016-03-28 01:22:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
You wish. Interesting reads in here. Just stop your harrasment and insults, stay on topic.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#133 - 2016-03-28 10:35:21 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:

Nothing personal. You are ok




Translation: "HALP the **** is now flooding my air holes"

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#134 - 2016-03-29 12:41:37 UTC
Sabotaged wrote:
A Macherial should not be allowed to hold you hostage indefinitely without absolutely no risk whatsoever to said Macherial. To me this is the very definition of exploit.


They are risking getting a faction battleship ganked (which has happened, btw), and it's not an exploit, no matter how many times you say it.
Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#135 - 2016-03-30 19:52:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Bing Bangboom
Its amazing that even after four years we have the same arguments going on here in the Forums about the New Order of Highsec. The same complaints that always boil down to "Someone who knows how to play this game defeated someone who did not". The same claims of helplessness of the victims, cowardice of the Agents and Ignorance of CCP about the effect New Order activities was having on player retention.

It's pointless to argue about what the New Order wants. It is, and has always been, perfectly clear and available for anyone to read and understand. Just go to www.minerbumping.com and read The Code.

We require every highsec miner, freighter pilot, incursion runner, mission runner, explorer, hauler, PvE'er of any kind to buy a mining permit and follow the Code.

That's it. Just do that and you will have no problems with us.

For some reason, players don't do this one simple thing. And so there are consequences. Now sure, some people are ignorant about the Code and lose ships and pods. That's understandable the first time. After that, they know what to do. Its pointless to complain about bumping Marcherials or what CONCORD does or how profitable it is to gank a ship or what lowsec is for. Those things don't matter. They are of no consequence. If a person has a mining permit and follows the Code he isn't affected by it.

In EVERY case, the people complaining here know they need permits. They know they will lose ships for not having one (because they have). They know what the New Order will do if they continue to not follow the Code.

Frankly, they are kinda dim bulbs if you ask me. 10 million ISK for something that will protect their ship from the most effective, dangerous and active threat they face in highsec seems like a great bargain. Its just dumb to not buy a permit and pledge your support of James 315 and the New Order. But like in real life, stupidity is punished by the death penalty. Without debate, without remorse, and often, without delay.

Highsec is worth fighting for.

By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.  www.minerbumping.com
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#136 - 2016-04-02 21:18:26 UTC
The real question here is: What is a Macherial? New solar system discovered somewhere?
It sure sounds tasty, though!

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#137 - 2016-04-02 22:13:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
Bing Bangboom wrote:
...

It's pointless to argue about what the New Order wants. It is, and has always been, perfectly clear and available for anyone to read and understand. Just go to www.minerbumping.com and read The Code.

We require every highsec miner, freighter pilot, incursion runner, mission runner, explorer, hauler, PvE'er of any kind to buy a mining permit and follow the Code...



lol. There is a difference between what YOU WANT and what you get :) Kids with education even learn that in school.

Bumpers are just bots hiding behind NPC alts and are not able to survive in low or 0.0. So they try to organize themself in highsec and attack single players with a fleet of 29 Caracals. Very brave. lol

Sorry, can not support you and I am still selling my stuff in Jita.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#138 - 2016-04-02 22:47:36 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
...

It's pointless to argue about what the New Order wants. It is, and has always been, perfectly clear and available for anyone to read and understand. Just go to www.minerbumping.com and read The Code.

We require every highsec miner, freighter pilot, incursion runner, mission runner, explorer, hauler, PvE'er of any kind to buy a mining permit and follow the Code...
Bumpers are just bots

uhmmm nope
I can confirm bumpers are players.
I confirm they're better than you.
I confirm they make more than your "20 bill a week from CODE"

lol

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Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#139 - 2016-04-03 02:39:42 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
...

It's pointless to argue about what the New Order wants. It is, and has always been, perfectly clear and available for anyone to read and understand. Just go to www.minerbumping.com and read The Code.

We require every highsec miner, freighter pilot, incursion runner, mission runner, explorer, hauler, PvE'er of any kind to buy a mining permit and follow the Code...
Bumpers are just bots

uhmmm nope
I can confirm bumpers are players.
I confirm they're better than you.
I confirm they make more than your "20 bill a week from CODE"

lol


Can you confirm if it is, truly, their milkshake that brings all the boys to the yard?

Also, do they teach for free?
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#140 - 2016-04-03 05:03:39 UTC
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Fred Kyong wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
...

It's pointless to argue about what the New Order wants. It is, and has always been, perfectly clear and available for anyone to read and understand. Just go to www.minerbumping.com and read The Code.

We require every highsec miner, freighter pilot, incursion runner, mission runner, explorer, hauler, PvE'er of any kind to buy a mining permit and follow the Code...
Bumpers are just bots

uhmmm nope
I can confirm bumpers are players.
I confirm they're better than you.
I confirm they make more than your "20 bill a week from CODE"

lol


Can you confirm if it is, truly, their milkshake that brings all the boys to the yard?

Also, do they teach for free?

they can probably teach you, yeah Smile

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