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anyone else notice that turrets have had their tracking speed and sig res upped by a factor of 1k. was this do to the siege and HAW change?

no ccp is just going to leave the T2 plate at hull upgrades I

Here is the combined effect of n-FSU II assuming stacking penalty (as damage factor):

1 1.06
2 1.1152759789
3 1.1534572962
4 1.1730397321
5 1.1804996356

here is without stacking penalty:

1 1.06
2 1.1236
3 1.191016
4 1.26247696
5 1.3382255776


so here is the increase in damage by removing the stacking penalty:

1 1
2 1.0074636424
3 1.0325618503
4 1.0762439885
5 1.1336094797


By removing the stacking penalty the damage would be increased by 7.6% for 4 FSU II, and by 13.4% for 5 FSU II

I just cant login to check the numbers, but I think Firbolg II was 115 damage and 5 seconds for primary and 244 and 10 seconds for secondary.

We have as bonus: light fighters skill (25%) carrier skills (12.5%), drone damage amplifiers, and FSU. I think the rest (drone interfacing for example) does not work on fighters. We have 3*9 fighters, so here is a damage table, so lets assume 5 FSU II:

stacking penalty:
DDA 0 1 2 3 4 5
primary 1031 1242 1464 1635 1730 1767
secondary 1094 1318 1553 1734 1835 1875
sum 2125 2560 3016 3369 3564 3642



DDA 0 1 2 3 4 5
primary 1239 1493 1759 1964 2078 2123
secondary 1383 1584 1866 2084 2205 2253
sum 2553 3076 3624 4048 4283 4376

(edit: just rounded the numbers, probably easier to read this way)


This seems to about right with the 3660 that Thalesia wrote for a max Thanny with 4 dda (I assume he tested it, or was this calculated too?), my calculation says 3564.5, so its not far off.

Now lets see as Tranq thanny (I am taking the values of EFT, thats easier:
DDA 0 1 2 3 4 5
Damage 1875 2259 2662 2973 3146 3214


Now just as a reminder:
-This is the highest damage drones, the old drones all had the same damage. All other drones have significantly lower damage.
-The sum is not equal to the dps, you cannot fire the secondary all the time. If you could do that the damage would be roughly the same as the old values, but if that is the reason for the damage values, then it needs infinite ammo and auto repeat. Otherwise the damage is clearly weaker as before.

it's also really annoying that you need to train 2x as long for 1/2 the bonus.

rather than 1 x 12 skill that gives 20% we get 2 x12 skills that give 5%


so our SP is worth 1/4 of what it was -.- im depressed now

In not sure of they changed something on the last couple days, but tracking links definitely did seem to help fighters. I'm not sure what effect the scripts have, but either script or no script improved their damage against small and fast targets.

some small update: One of the reasons I felt Carriers to be way too weak was that I tested them with Einherji-Fighters, that do - for whatever reason - not even half the DPS of Firbolgs.

With Firbolgs the DPS on the field is much better, carrier still feels weaker than on TQ but not that much. Unfortunately testing in WHs to have hard NPCs to shoot at is nearly impossible because there are no anomalies in the C4 you can /moveme to and you cannot tank the C5/C6 capital escalations in a damage fit.

Deployed fighters have an indicator that switches between speed and range. Would be much better to have those stats continuously displayed by stacking them one above the other rather than continuously switching in the same spot.


T2 fighters have a negligible increase in damage over T1. There should be about a 20% difference between the two to stay in line with other T1/T2 modules.

So I tested the tracking thing myself, because I could hardly believe it:

Tracking comps do affect fighter damage against smaller or faster targets. It does not matter if you use tracking scripts, no scripts, or range scripts, the effect is always the same.

From my test each tracking computer increases the damge on the main gun by approximately 5%, I could not notice a stacking penalty. On the secondary gun it was more like 3%-4%, but that could be a measuring error, since the secondary damage fluctuates more, and I was too lazy to do many shots.
The smaller effect on the secondary gun might be because the target ship had a signature of 145 meter, so it was above the explosion radius.


Omnidirectional tracking enhancer seem to have a similar effect, but slightly stronger.



Different bug (probably already mentioned somewhere): Fighters following in warp tend to land about 1000km away from the carrier. Thats really annoying.

Greetings everyone!

Dropping in with details on the most recent update!


Fixes & Features

• Fighters can now be abandoned and scooped back into fighter bays. They should deal appropriately with their controlling ship leaving grid, exploding or logging of (Still need to fix the fact that cloaking has no restrictions relating to fighters and vice versa.
• Fixed all know instances of the fighter hud duplicating the ability buttons or breaking when fighters die or the UI is moved )(PLEASE BUG REPORT ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK IS RELATED TO THIS K THX )
• Implemented a ton of stat changes & industry & skill requirements and fixed a few more minor text errors
• All NPCs should now be able to interact with fighters! Please let us know of any situations where that is now not the case.
• "Networked Sensor Array" no longer gives a weapons timer
• Beacons created by the new AoE superweapons are no longer warpable
• Many minor tweaks and improvements to the fighter UI

Coming very soon

• Right click, radial and selected item menus/windows will direct selected fighter squadrons
• Fixes for the Reaper and GTFO doomsdays
• Forum threads for all Capitals and modules (The first of which are found here: Carriers, Supercarriers)

Thats all for now, enjoy!

Just going to tell you guys anti subcap dread DPS is too low to use outside of joke roams.

We are talking hulls worth over 2bill fitted with at least 4 capital mods (**** of nag) more likely 5-6 that do battleship dps and im talking normal battleship dps not rattle or vindi dps. These ships will drop on a spot and sit there for 5min minimum with battle-cruiser range and do as much as a well fit standard battleship.

So.

DREAD: ANTI SUB-CAP
1) poor range for immobile DPS
2) poor DPS for expensive immobile dps that is designed to kill battleships
3) skill intensive with low return
4) good active tank...... it's something
5) can be targeted by heavy anti cap weapon systems
6) a capital neut if you have the fitting (going to get one on my carrier)

Battleships
1) cost effective (depending on hull)
2) versatile
3) mobile
4) better projection
5) solid active and buffer tanks depending on hul
6) receive little to no damage from anti capital weapon systems
7) very accessible to lower sp players