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Ruthless Erection
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-01-12 08:30:58 UTC
So, This has been argued between a few people and I. I say it's bannable, they say its not.



Here's the question:

Is smart bombing Jita with either a SOLO battleship or a fleet of battleships (10 or more), a bannable offense?


I personally, don't see the problem as long as you don't crash or lag the node tremendously, but then again care bear tears will come flowing out like Niagara falls and CCP will rage.



Do it or Don't Do it?
Lord Mandelor
Oruze Cruise
White Stag Exit Bag
#2 - 2012-01-12 08:33:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Mandelor
Ruthless Erection wrote:
So, This has been argued between a few people and I. I say it's bannable, they say its not.



Here's the question:

Is smart bombing Jita with either a SOLO battleship or a fleet of battleships (10 or more), a bannable offense?


I personally, don't see the problem as long as you don't crash or lag the node tremendously, but then again care bear tears will come flowing out like Niagara falls and CCP will rage.



Do it or Don't Do it?


NOPE. Not bannable.
During the shooting up of the monument in Jita, I recall a fleet of battleships all named "CCP RIOT CONTROL" or something like it that went around smart bombing everyone.

Funny as hell too.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-01-12 08:35:58 UTC
not bannable unless you somehow manage to avoid ultimately dying yourself in the process.

Avoiding the repercussions of your ebil actions in high sec, ( tanking or avoiding concord after doing the evil deed ) is bannable. Random murder-death-kill in hi sec is not.

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pussnheels
Viziam
#4 - 2012-01-12 08:43:15 UTC
correct me if i am wrong but i think i read somewhere in a older thread that there is some sort of safeperimater around the undocking point of a station that prevents smartbombs to work ,
Jita 4-4 would be death by now if this wasn't the case

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Jason McCoy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-01-12 08:51:54 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
correct me if i am wrong but i think i read somewhere in a older thread that there is some sort of safeperimater around the undocking point of a station that prevents smartbombs to work ,
Jita 4-4 would be death by now if this wasn't the case

ya you cannot set off smart bombs if you are closer to 5km to the station or gate.
Ruthless Erection
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-01-12 08:54:18 UTC
Jason McCoy wrote:
pussnheels wrote:
correct me if i am wrong but i think i read somewhere in a older thread that there is some sort of safeperimater around the undocking point of a station that prevents smartbombs to work ,
Jita 4-4 would be death by now if this wasn't the case

ya you cannot set off smart bombs if you are closer to 5km to the station or gate.


That's kinda dumb. Smart bombs roll at what, 6000m? So sit at 5,001m and BAM you're good, are you not?
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-01-12 09:12:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ris Dnalor
Ruthless Erection wrote:
Jason McCoy wrote:
pussnheels wrote:
correct me if i am wrong but i think i read somewhere in a older thread that there is some sort of safeperimater around the undocking point of a station that prevents smartbombs to work ,
Jita 4-4 would be death by now if this wasn't the case

ya you cannot set off smart bombs if you are closer to 5km to the station or gate.


That's kinda dumb. Smart bombs roll at what, 6000m? So sit at 5,001m and BAM you're good, are you not?



The 0m 'bubble' for jita 4-4 requires you to fly pretty far away before it starts counting up.

but that wouldn't stop you from getting some non-regional-gate traffic :)

also, these help with your 5km range problem.

o7

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pussnheels
Viziam
#8 - 2012-01-12 10:10:33 UTC
Ruthless Erection wrote:
So, This has been argued between a few people and I. I say it's bannable, they say its not.



Here's the question:

Is smart bombing Jita with either a SOLO battleship or a fleet of battleships (10 or more), a bannable offense?


I personally, don't see the problem as long as you don't crash or lag the node tremendously, but then again care bear tears will come flowing out like Niagara falls and CCP will rage.



Do it or Don't Do it?

you will be hitting everybody not only the carebears , can you imagine the tears from the bitternullsec veteran when you blow up his month worth of moongoo

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Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
#9 - 2012-01-12 10:18:22 UTC
I recall someone did that some time ago and got banned.

Apart from that person, there were at least a few people who jettisoned shuttles and got banned due to lagging the node.

I guess that if you are suspected of doing the SB-ing on purpose to lag or crash the node, you get the boot. If you'r just doing it within "I want to hoard kms" and don't crash the node in the process, you'r all fine. But be warned - it's very easy to crash the jita node, even by accident. You don't know if a freighter isn't carrying a full load of shuttles :D

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Ruthless Erection
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-01-12 18:15:49 UTC
Dr Karsun wrote:
I recall someone did that some time ago and got banned.

Apart from that person, there were at least a few people who jettisoned shuttles and got banned due to lagging the node.

I guess that if you are suspected of doing the SB-ing on purpose to lag or crash the node, you get the boot. If you'r just doing it within "I want to hoard kms" and don't crash the node in the process, you'r all fine. But be warned - it's very easy to crash the jita node, even by accident. You don't know if a freighter isn't carrying a full load of shuttles :D


Thanks for the warning. I'm making my plans :)
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#11 - 2012-01-12 18:20:10 UTC
Quote:
That's kinda dumb. Smart bombs roll at what, 6000m? So sit at 5,001m and BAM you're good, are you not?


Nope it 5000m anything more then that is faction or something

I have a friend that SBed Jita quite recently actually in a geddon, he's now at nearly -8.0 sec and is stuck in low and null lol

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Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-01-12 18:22:51 UTC
It's easy to forget that Jita is just another system.
Smartbombing in Jita is just as allowed as it is everywhere else.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#13 - 2012-01-12 18:25:16 UTC
Smartbombing in hisec is fine so long as you don't do it for the purpose of crashing the node. There was one guy who did a "Navy Megathron Giveaway" event, once. He broadcasted in local that he would eject from his Navy Mega, and the first pod to claim it got it as theirs. When he was surrounded by hundreds of pods, he then let the smartbombs loose, killed all of them, and watched as Concord showing up to kill him crashed the node. Lots of people raged, nobody got reimbursed, but apparently doing that is not fine anymore.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#14 - 2012-01-12 18:39:16 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Smartbombing in hisec is fine so long as you don't do it for the purpose of crashing the node. There was one guy who did a "Navy Megathron Giveaway" event, once. He broadcasted in local that he would eject from his Navy Mega, and the first pod to claim it got it as theirs. When he was surrounded by hundreds of pods, he then let the smartbombs loose, killed all of them, and watched as Concord showing up to kill him crashed the node. Lots of people raged, nobody got reimbursed, but apparently doing that is not fine anymore.


Should really have FRAPSed that epic event.

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Tribalic One
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-01-12 18:39:24 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Smartbombing in hisec is fine so long as you don't do it for the purpose of crashing the node. There was one guy who did a "Navy Megathron Giveaway" event, once. He broadcasted in local that he would eject from his Navy Mega, and the first pod to claim it got it as theirs. When he was surrounded by hundreds of pods, he then let the smartbombs loose, killed all of them, and watched as Concord showing up to kill him crashed the node. Lots of people raged, nobody got reimbursed, but apparently doing that is not fine anymore.

^^ This made me LOL!!

I would have loved to witness this. I can just see all the pods surrounding the Mega like sperm to an egg. Then... BOOM!!
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#16 - 2012-01-12 18:41:08 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Smartbombing in hisec is fine so long as you don't do it for the purpose of crashing the node. There was one guy who did a "Navy Megathron Giveaway" event, once. He broadcasted in local that he would eject from his Navy Mega, and the first pod to claim it got it as theirs. When he was surrounded by hundreds of pods, he then let the smartbombs loose, killed all of them, and watched as Concord showing up to kill him crashed the node. Lots of people raged, nobody got reimbursed, but apparently doing that is not fine anymore.


Should really have FRAPSed that epic event.


Someone might have, I don't know. Google it?

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Barakkus
#17 - 2012-01-12 20:20:03 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Smartbombing in hisec is fine so long as you don't do it for the purpose of crashing the node. There was one guy who did a "Navy Megathron Giveaway" event, once. He broadcasted in local that he would eject from his Navy Mega, and the first pod to claim it got it as theirs. When he was surrounded by hundreds of pods, he then let the smartbombs loose, killed all of them, and watched as Concord showing up to kill him crashed the node. Lots of people raged, nobody got reimbursed, but apparently doing that is not fine anymore.


omfg EPIC

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#18 - 2012-01-12 20:52:34 UTC
Looked around, couldn't find a video of that smartbomb trap, but I did find this delicious video of Socratic being fooled into smartbombing a bunch of pods in hisec, instantly wrecking his sec status and making him unable to live in Arnon and troll anyone there anymore.

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Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#19 - 2012-01-12 20:53:28 UTC
Hehehe.. actually there's an old CnP thread about Socratic. Some total idiot that likes to annoy people in Arnon.

Someone once managed to have him sit in a 'safe spot' where someone was supposed to show up in a rifter or pod so he could smartbomb them. He got more than he bargained for, because when he turned on the SBs, about 20 pods warped on top of him
and suicided themselves on his smartbombs.

The objective here was to get him to -10 sec status so he couldn't annoy Arnon for a while anymore. It worked verry well.

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#20 - 2012-01-12 20:55:00 UTC
Xearal wrote:
Hehehe.. actually there's an old CnP thread about Socratic. Some total idiot that likes to annoy people in Arnon.

Someone once managed to have him sit in a 'safe spot' where someone was supposed to show up in a rifter or pod so he could smartbomb them. He got more than he bargained for, because when he turned on the SBs, about 20 pods warped on top of him
and suicided themselves on his smartbombs.

The objective here was to get him to -10 sec status so he couldn't annoy Arnon for a while anymore. It worked verry well.


It is the video of that that I linked in my previous post. Watch it. It's good for some laughs.

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