Warfare & Tactics

Eating scram kiters with dual web comet is one of my favorite hobbies. The dead space fit dramiel gleefully burns into engagement range expecting an easy win due to perfect range dictation....15 seconds later I'm off to station with my new blue mods.

Send Santo my regards! o7

Ye. Though blasters will show the highest dps, I think people are easy to forget how close you have be. Even if the Comet can do void with that tracking bonus, you still have to be within 3200m for it, all of it falloff. A kiting Slicer is often using Pulse because Scorch has amazing range. All the navy frigs are in a good place at the moment, imo. Confusing Paper numbers and application in actual practice is the reason we end up with the Svipul and Confessor having 10% dmg role bonuses.

The Comet definitely has the tracking, the speed, but if you don't know how to fly none of that is going to land. If you're good, yes, you can make it happen every time. Often I consistently out-dps higher dps ships because I'm there first, my positioning is solid, even if my dps is meager in comparison in something smaller. There are so many factors, but being good and effective is not a reason to cry OP! You have so many things to handle in a Comet that the probability of errors rise and each mistake severely reduces advantages that might have been assumed. This is easy to capitalize as an FC just by creating distance prior to an engagement. Comet does well because people don't bring the appropriate ewar and everyone is thinking along the same lane: highest dps. This is why the TD condor is such a great ship for solo pilots, but with such low dps you really have to do groupings or have links. Some of the best pirates don't fly far from home because they do counter fits and they are ridiculously good at it, or lazy about moving their links far. You RvB guys might be complacent with implants by your rules on no podding, but down here everything is game. Billion Isk Links die and pods get lost; you pay for the advantages to effectiveness.

The drawback is under the hood by the high CPU requirements of bulkheads and damage controls. The buff to shield fits sans DCU with the free hull resists offset much of the penalty to the tighter fitting on tiercide mods. Changes are coming along very nicely for the frigate meta.

I never cried OP though :)

The Reactive Armor Hardener also adds positive resist profile. Sorely underrated mod, in my opinion. For only 24cpu the +60% at full bore it can make a t1 ship hit t2 resists while avoiding too many stacking penalties and potentially opening a low for something else.
Hull tanking was mostly a joke until the rigs came out. But adding a t2 Reinforced Bulkhead in the low is 40cpu. Extremely high. A ship that fits this might have an advantage to sig and speed over armor and shield, but, as XG said, you cannot (reasonably) be assisted with remote reps on your highest resist profile. I would leave that where it is. It's added some great meta even in cruisers and above.



Maybe not, but it did sound as if a 380dps Comet was commonplace.

RAH is an interesting choice, but not on frigs the cap use of that thing is extreme. It's like constantly running 5mn mwd (even more actually), half of your frig cap regen will go on only feeding this one mod. This is hardly reasonable on small hulls and opens too many problems than it solves.

You can hull tank with only DCU plus hull rigs and get decent enough tank on frigs and to some degree on dessies. Bulkheads (the mod) actually have a quite interesting drawback to agility, this is the thing I wouldn't mind seeing on hull rigs too.

One more thing.

Hull rigs have 20% bonus (T1 variant) vs 15% on shield/armor (T1) and imo that is ok, because as you and XG pointed out they can't be reasonably RRed. Now here comes the fun part about hull rigs/bulkheads, one t2 hull rig gives as big of a bonus (25%) as a T2 bulkhead (25%), but with 0 compromises. There were no 40 cpu cost, no agility penalty and you save up a slot, even cargo drawback is smaller on the rig.

So yeah ... hull rigs are a cool idea, but they still need balancing imo.

I fly 340 DPS dual web Comets all the time. No bulkheads required in the lows. T2 hull rigs give 6.5k EHP before the ancil, which can add alot more depending on your opponents DPS. No speed drawbacks of armor tanking and no sig/mid slot tradeoffs due to shields. Links still give you goofy speed (over 2k heated) and a nice buff to the AAR+17k webs and faster lock speeds to eat would-be mwd kite setups. And your standard rail comet gets something like 220 hot with no implants. Superior to the other navies in every way. Adding a TD with full weapon disruption skills is the only way to have a chance.

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