EVE General Discussion

I dont think most people know whats going on and what is true and false,
Assumptions are made on reddit and here on forums that arent true.

True facts no words.

CO2 was getting shat on by GSF for months now. The evacuation of Vale showed exactly how much goons cared about their "valued allies". You're pulling in the idiots too dumb to know any better to defend your space, and hoping that their now empty space slows people down.


Spin it any way you want, but people are leaving the CFC.

I don't know the exact history with CO2, of course there was more leading up to this than mere cash, but it was definitely a factor. Their own CEO admitted as much. From their own goodbye statement it became clear that they often didn't see eye to eye with the leadership and chose not to speak up about, even though they could have and should have. Instead of bringing their issues to the table they chose to backstab their allies over their own built up frustrations. That is their decision and it will come to bite them in the ass at some point, but such is the nature of EVE politics I guess.

As for how much of a loss their departure is in the current climate only time will tell.

I believe they did address the issues and frustrations but being ignored long enough makes you think about what you are actually doing and worth, Being taken for granted eventually leads to decisions of this type and to say they backstabbed you begs the question of who backstabbed whom first! Might be an Idea to get Scion's take on this as he was directly involved if he can be objective and not use spin.

It does make you think doesn't it!

This, right here.

The funny part of this is that those people include highsec players who would be laughing about goons getting destroyed. But if they go get booted out of sov space, with citadels rolling out, there's every chance it might work out worse for many highseccers.

Highsec tears - best tears

Was in a very educational forum the other day organised for newbros like me by Danielle where Porkbutte was talking about the meta game; spying, allegiances and so on. It's the bit he enjoys the most. Going to be watching this with interest.

I don't think all the NPC stations are going away in HiSec, that's just a prophecy there, despite what CCP has said on their 'intent', it still feels like they aren't 100% decided. It will impact so much and possibly, as you say, make the current HiSec PvE lifestyle unplayable. If that happens, a good chunk of the player base may just walk away if your prediction comes true.

I'd predict that smaller citadels will be more common with reasonable tax rates due to wanting competition in the areas. Some really large corps might get in and muscle around to claim space and try to monopolize stuff, but if they force all the small corps out, it will have an adverse effect on the PvE player base and I think CCP is aware of this. They will either have to have some kind of protections for the small corps or leave NPC stations around to keep the larger corps in check.

Regardless of the final change, it will cause a fairly large disruption/rebalancing if they completely ditch the NPC stations.