Market Discussions

Long-Limb Roes

Are you saying when you get your Six days of Eve time after 3 weeks away you want there to be profit waiting for you?
Or
You want a long term investment that you can check in on every 3 weeks and see how it's doing?

I ask because long term means months to me. Can even be a year.

If your definition of long term fits mine then one very simple investment strategy is simply to play the long term peaks and troughs of the mineral market. Minerals are easy to buy and sell because of the volumes bought and sold. You just have to buy low and wait, wait, wait.
As an example I've put a lot of my investment ISK into nocxium which has been very low for a long time, and now is starting to turn, when citadels hit very soon I expect it to go up a lot. Isogen is now very low......... also the sisters of mercy ships astero, stratios, and nestor are very very cheap

The risk in this form of investment can be mitigated by being resolute in not selling until the price has gone up from what you paid, but this could be a VERY long time. Other downside is your money is tied up. If you need you cash for something you'll probably have to take a loss. It's very low effort, buy and check the market every 3 weeks. You would probably get a much higher rate of return from more intensive market trading, but low effort seems to be important to your circumstances.

I would be VERY careful about PLEX right now. They have traditionally been a very safe investment, but the risk has gone up and the reward has gone down. Even if they go up 200 mill that's only 18% return. Isogen and patience will get you over 25%, the sister of mercy ships even more. The argument against that is "over what period of time?"

Kind of both of those. I would like to have some long term investments and also be able to pull out some profit once a month or maybe every other month. with the end long long term goal of having enough capital to invest and therefor profit to plex every month. I am tying to go form a messily isk millionaire to a isk billionaire in one to two years through investing (or some other means). Currently (or rather previously) I would run data/relic sites just enough to pay for my pvp ships and what not. Id play 4 days a week or so. on week days id play 2-4 days and spend two such days on the data/relics. the rest of the play time was pvp or what ever i felt like for fun.

The investment in goods you talk about interest me greatly. I will have to look into it. Id be ok with months/year as long as the pay out is good. 200mil/plex is CRAZY. last time I was in game actively they were around 800 mil and YEARS ago when I played they were 300mil. I may stock up on those and wait. They only thing is at 200 mil i could only buy maybe three with isk (but as i said I may throw in some IRL $). BUT, if they spike again around xmas (like they used too) it would be worth it. I may liquidate my larger ships and go for that. thanks.



I know nothing of what you are talking. Please expand upon this. It might would be worth my while to invest in something with a guaranteed rate and just collect interest (if this is what you mean).

Makeleth is saying if you had your ISK tied up in a long term investment. You could use the goods as collateral on a loan if you needed cash quick. That way you wouldn't need to sell the goods at a loss.

Your investment goods would be held by another person whilst you held/repaid the loan. If you didn't reply the loan AND interest your goods would be forefit.
You would typically get a load worth 90% of the current market price of the goods. You would also have to pay the loan back with interest in the region of 2% per month. Once you paid the loan and interest back you would get your goods back.

People who do this usually need short terms cash for an quick investment. They expect the investment to repay the loan and interest and leave them with some profit on top.
I'm not sure this would suit you.

I don't know of any passive ways to make a lot of ISK without a significant amount of capital investment. You either gotta have the time or the capital.

Buy some of the special loot that just came out in the hunt event? You might get lucky with a SKIN or a clothing that gets very expensive fairly quick.

If you're looking for long-term investment of spare funds, I've pretty much recognized that at 3%/month I can take a nearly unlimited amount of loan money because it's stupid easy to beat 3%.

I'd only take me up on that if you've got literally nothing else you want to do with the funds though.

So I got a message in-game from someone talking about a collateralize bond with a 5% payout or an un-collateralized for 15%. Is this a thing in eve? does this sound legit? Im going to ask for more details and see what he says. let me what you guys think.

3%/month would be your return on any funds I borrow.

Regarding the in-game message - 5% collateralized is good, but barring familiarity with the person offering it 15% uncollateralized sounds like someone trying to separate a fool and his money.

I realize there's a bit of a hypocritical streak to that statement from me given I offered a mere 3% on an uncollateralized loan, but at least I have a track record of going to great lengths to repay people.

No. You do not seem very experienced, so under no circumstances should you give money to someone that contacts you outside of this forum.