Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Of course, if the money supply and the real economy grow at the same rate and the number of transactions do not change, then inflation will be zero. But I'm not sure we know the rate at which real goods and services are being created. Still using Anhenka's numbers inflation is likely to be rather lower than most people think. Keep in mind that even a 0.5% rate of inflation/month is an annualized inflation rate of a bit over 6%.

To summarize, most are in agreement, inflation is not a problem.
Thus, no need for more ISK sinks, especially placed on people producing real goods.

Nothing more to see here....let the thread fall of the front page.

And yet the market data proves this portion of your statement as false.
If production of materials exceeded demand created by destruction of said materials there would be either 1. a precipitous drop in prices across the entire spectrum of the markets, or 2. there would be a slow but steady drop in prices across the markets. And yet by your own admission when you throw out the obvious anomalies in market like the newest OP hull of the month prices are and have been relatively stable over time.

Wish there was a included definition of "Destroyed", as well as a clear labeling of axis to show what is happening.

I'm fairly sure that the graph is not being plotted as an accurate measure of isk production vs destruction per day. A quick glance look at http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/70094/1/05_-_26f4xYV.png Suggests a total monthly production amount of roughly 80-90 Trillion.

I'm have a very very hard time believing that of that, 60 Trillion is excess production, that 2/3 or more of all production in the game is getting stockpiled.

If the information for "Destroyed" is based on things actually blowing up, it could be excluding all Fuel block consumed in towers, ammo fired, drones that didn't die while still in the ship, trashed items, etc.

The definition of "End Products only" Is also rather confusing. Does this automatically exclude all PI, moon minerals, standard materials, datacores, t1 and t2 ship components, etc from production category until they are used to construct a final item that is not the component of anything else? If I make capital Armor Plates, does it count those as "End products", or not? If it does count that as production, then actually building a capital from them would double dip in the production category, but not the destruction one.

TLDR: Lies, damn lies, and statistics, as the saying goes. (Not an attack on you, these numbers are just incredibly vague)

I'm pretty sure the End products only is to exclude double dipping. Can bug Quant in the Dev blog thread for details on that if he didn't already clarify somewhere in there. Destruction could be excluding those things you mentioned yea, but I'd say those are actually a small portion of what gets destroyed so it's not going to be out by any significant factor. 10-20% maybe, but that moves from 1 to 1.2 at best.
I can however believe that 2/3rds of all production is stockpiled. It matches what we know from other production/destruction threads. That there is a lot of stuff sitting there accumulated in player storage that never gets used. And is why the big alliances are so unshakable unless they fall apart internally because of those years of stockpiling. Think Titans built vs Destroyed for instance.
And a per day scale matches the actual plot points scale. If you look at the actual line rather than the best fit line.